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Awickert is currently wikibonked and is operating at a lower edit level than usual. Hitting the wall is a temporary condition, and the user should return to normal edit levels in time.

[edit] Wikipedia

GW sure got nasty. We haven't talked a while, and if this a bad moment, I'm alright with waiting. It seems kind of odd that some of the editors seem experience an abrupt change in habits. For example FinScribe, Dalej78, and Macai all abruptly stopped editing two years ago, 2007, and then picked right back up again with minor exceptions. Some also seem to be unusual well-versed in policy, although it's not beyond inconceivable bounds. Whether this is because of the e-mail incident, a perennial pattern, or a new Scibaby (+ friends) tactic. I don't know. In terms of political progressivism in the media, it seems time to me, now that the presidential election's over, that they're going become more conservative again. I was wondering if you had any thoughts in mind. I don't like seeing the wrong version of the article locked, but IMO it's acceptable to wait until it blows over. The number one deterrent for flamers is boredom, so write in a very dry, unemotional, logical tone. Well that's my two cents, how about you? ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:52, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

I haven't been watching that closely to think about those things, and I don't watch enough of these articles to see all of them.

You mean political progressivism in the US media? So, this is a cycle? No thoughts in particular due to a lack of knowledge; I read at least a quarter of my news in Spanish these days (feels more productive to keep up the foreign language) and about non-science issues; a lot of the rest is football and hockey and local stuff ;-).

I left a message on the locking admin's talk because I thought the material at GW was unacceptable due to the featured article requirements, and Ed was so kind as to agree with me and remove it.

My problem is that I'm too altruistic; I always want to work until we all agree, or at least respect one another's opinions based on good reasoning and evidence; this doesn't always happen. Yes, it's getting rowdy.

Yes, this is a bad time, though it also means that I procrastinate here. But I promised someone that I would finish reviewing a geology article, and I plan on doing that as soon as I have some free time with my wits about me.

Glad to hear from you; your old thread finally got archived here and after months and months there was no CaC at my talk, Awickert (talk) 05:59, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, admission deadlines are this month. I edit Wikipedia now, well because it's sort of a warm-up for essays. I think English, as a class, teaches the wrong lessons about brevity, or the lack of it. I'll leave you to the GA, it's probably more important, see you tomorrow or sometime after that. :) ChyranandChloe (talk) 06:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Good luck with those. Suppose it depends on the English teacher. I try to write in cave-man English myself, Awickert (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, Climategate and verbosity, except the editors this time don't seem to be socks.

The media goes through cycles, pretty predictable ones too, I took political science. To sum it up, presidents receive the greatest approval during and after the election, which declines during the house elections. Names have changed, so have positions, but with a few excpetion it's been like this for the past fifty years.

My problem is that I look for errors in their arugments, which is a sure way to turn their ego against you.

I feel like I'm being really cold, which apparently is the opposite of encouragement and an aweful way to improve the community. I'm probably getting too much practice with alliterations,[1] which works better than bolding to get your point across. Well those are the happenings, how about you? What do you think? ChyranandChloe (talk) 08:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Going to bed, but I think that it would be worthwhile to be nice to Woudloper, and maybe leave a message on his talk explaining your grumpiness. He's a really great Wiki editor IMO (and a nice guy) and I can understand his thoughts since I as well think in terms of the more distant past. He's also usually very good at understanding where other people are coming from, Awickert (talk) 09:00, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll think about it, thanks. We've only talked twice, on Talk:Global Warming on and on Curtis's talk. About leaving a note on his talk, should I tell him I got the tip from here? ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:12, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Nah, you don't have to. Actually, his page is on my watchlist; maybe I'm popular enough to be on his and he's already seen this. Glad it looks like the conversation is getting better between you two. I'm starting to think that T:GW is getting so toxic that I'll work somewhere else if I actually want to make a contribution there. I'd be happy to follow his suggestion though and create a teeny tiny blurb on past warming chock full of relevant wikilinks when the article is unprotected, though I'd consult with the regulars first because the article is pretty long. Awickert (talk) 05:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, of course, there's only been four messages between us, and the one I showed you was the I'm least proud of. Boris[2][3][4] and WMC[5] have replied. The blurb about past warming has already been covered in the hatnote "For past climate change, see...", well that was my position. I'll defer to you if you believe otherwise. Yeah, it's getting really toxic, there are two active threads right now: one about the lead, and another on neutrality. I'd stay away from the latter, but the one on the lead WMC seems to have a resolve. Anyways, those are the happenings. Created a new article, List of Ebola outbreaks, why can't GW be sane like rabies and cure-free neuroinvasive diseases? :P ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Glad you're getting along, though making very scary lists. I'm not too sure whether or not prior warming should be in there; if it does go in, I think that it should be a short 1-paragraph link-full blurb as to inform the reader without taking time away from the main topic. I will think about this but for the moment don't have the time to devote to it. Awickert (talk) 05:22, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Glad you finally had a break. Happy holidays? ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:56, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Very happy! Though it is not much of a break yet, just a quick reprieve and decided I really needed to reply... real break starts on the 21st : ). Awickert (talk) 07:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Great, see you on the 22nd (my break starts on Tuesday). ChyranandChloe (talk) 18:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hasta mañana, Awickert (talk) 15:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Well things have finally cool down, although now I think I'm at odds with Atmoz. POed at him. ChyranandChloe (talk) 07:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

That happens; we were pretty annoyed with each other some time ago, but after making some pissy remarks, we both were reasonable and things got better. Awickert (talk) 16:27, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, wonder when this abrupt climate change ends, and we can all cool down. Right now I'm looking at Thegreatdr's proposal in Talk:Global warming#Cite doi finally. How's life going for you? You seemed pretty busy a week ago. ChyranandChloe (talk) 21:28, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to cool down starting this evening; Christmas Even and Christmas days aren't days for wiki-angst. So if I'm online then, I'll probably just be responding to non-heated discussions and wishing happy holidays to all. I am relaxed now; I was busy at a meeting last week. Awickert (talk) 23:41, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Same, got invited to a pizza party at the church tonight, family and friends during Christmas. Working on Public opinion on climate change, wow, didn't think I'd use what I learned in Statistics last year. Really helped. Going through the sources earlier editors added, some of them, well... I feel no pain cutting them. You interested? ChyranandChloe (talk) 00:29, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, happy to help. But I'm taking Christmas Eve and Day off, at least off with respect to controversial (i.e., un-fun) topics. Depending on how much time I spend with friends, family, dogs, etc., I might give sediment transport some more info and polish; it's a continuing project of mine that will need to be split into several articles when I'm done. Awickert (talk) 02:46, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

(outdent) Well I didn't end up applying for MIT, but Stanford instead. Wow, that GW discussion totally lost me. If you they tell you they're in good faith, I bet it's just a way to get around WP:AGF. Seriously? A bot for reverting dissenting opinion?[6] Anyways, I'm, of course, asking for your take; and I'll likewise give you the same. Discussions like this end in ad nauseam, their objective is by no means an edit to an article, but an egotistical defense. They are motivated by two things: you, and being right. There's a difference between what is and what you need to do. What does this mean for us? If it's going to end in ad nauseam, it's just comment and wait. Space out your edits once a day, make it long enough that it looks like you've put some thought in it, but short enough that it doesn't become a burden. You know I don't like this, any of this. If those editors didn't start with NPOV and "oppression" first, I bet they'd have a lot more success. ChyranandChloe (talk)

I'm going to reply to one thing at a time - I'm getting old and easily-bewildered.

College - looks like you went with the good decision for mental health : )
Global Warming: I haven't looked at the talk page in a couple of days, but I just did. I'm not sure what you want my opinion on though. Certainly I would be more agreeable with some of the skeptical crowd if they didn't start comments in attacks and conspiracy; I could cite a number of diffs here but don't see the productivity in creating drama. Likewise on the page: I could revert all of the distasteful comments, but to do so would just give them more attention and create more drama. As a result, I've stepped back until the signal-to-noise improves because I think that some of the discussion could become productive if not repeatedly sidetracked. Awickert (talk) 04:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I think so too. Its Christmas, how's life for you? You sound a little discouraged. ChyranandChloe (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Not discouraged in life, though slowing down on wiki, so thanks for the concern. As a matter of fact, I'm feeling very well, and doing things that are actually personally important to me. This is also the first time in a while that I've had my whole family together, so I'm going to be with them as much as I can. As for Wiki: I think I'm just somewhat suddenly becoming tired of the argumentativeness here, and starting to feel like the continued pissing-on-one-another that happens on the talk pages is wearing me out and making me feel like I'm being a crappy human being. So I think I am going to scale back and start doing more content edits when I do find time to edit: particles moved by flowing water, erosion, and post-glacial rebound are up for consideration because I'm reasonably knowledgeable. Maybe some continuum mechanics as well. I also have queued up a volcano copyedit for ResMar, fixing all of the true polar wander / pole shift hypothesis stuff, helping you with Public Opinion on Climate Change, creating articles and organizing things from Template:River morphology, and maybe finally getting all the articles on Template:Paleozoic Stratigraphy of the Upper Midwest at least started. Awickert (talk) 07:37, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

That's good for you, yeah, my family usually gets together around thanks giving instead. Didn't want to divert your attention. Anyways, it's kind of strange how when you're not busy, I am. Well, I hope Public opinion on climate change doesn't get polarized, I mean I can see good things coming out of that article. Right now we've got a proposal to add stuff from Climate change denial, and you know how that stuff gets, denialism is a liberal conspiracy. I don't know much about geology, but public opinion seems to be something I can do. Good luck on those articles nonetheless. ChyranandChloe (talk) 08:57, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Public opinion on climate change seems to be a rapid growth area; thanks for your work in that area. I'm not sure how worldwide "climate change denial" is, but I know it is prevalent in good chunks of the English-speaking world and at least a little of the Spanish-speaking world, and it is certainly public opinion... though it is also a can of worms in terms of WP:NPOV. Remember, if the article gets polarized, just cross the polars! Awickert (talk) 16:58, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Feliz año !!

Thanks for the FAC review of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Hawaii hotspot/archive3! Espero que recibiste el año nuevo lleno de paz, alegria, y repleto de amistades ... me lo pasé con las compas en Miami ... con demasiado champan, y las clasicas quejas del famoso mono destrosando el pais! Que recibas todo lo mejor para 2010, y gracias de nuevo para tu atención a FAC. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Y también a ti: feliz año nuevo! Desafortunadamente estaba enfermo, casí pulmonía, pero por fin siento mejor y creo que voy a esquiar mañana. Creo que ResMar ahora me odia; es la problema de ser un "expert" (más o menos) en Wiki sin tanto tiempo para hacer todos los correciones antes de que un articulo llegue en FAC. Awickert (talk) 00:05, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

No te das mala vida por tus commentarios en FAC :) Espero que estes mejor ... que susto !!! Que gozas esquiando ... donde esquias? Me gustaria ir p'alla este invierno, si me es posible ... tengo tiempo que no voy. Tienes algun interes en ayudar con Wikipedia:Featured article review/Music of Minnesota/archive1? Saludos, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Estoy equiano en Minnesota ahora, dónde pasé mi niñez (por fin siento mejor - gracias). La nieve es perfecto, y la terreno aquí es perfecto (esquio "cross-country", especially "skate", no sé cómo se dice en español. Pero ahora vivo en Colorado, y también esquio allá. Me gustaría ayudar con esto, pero voy a estar viajando (trabajo) desde pronto hasta las 10 o 11 . . . pero lo pongo en mi lista de cosas para hacer. (Yeah, yeah sorry for the crappy Spanish; back late after being out with friends and just checking email and Wiki messages before bed.)

No me molestan las commentarios en FAC. El problema es que para mí es dificíl decir que el trabajo otra persona es mal sin sentir como estoy arrogante, etc. Voy a trabajar con ResMar en todo el tiempo que tengo para mejorarlo.

Sí quisieras esquiar, pudiera darte recommendaciónes - de mí (Nordic) o amigos (Alpine). Pero por email - doy mucho información personal aquí, pero no todo : ). Awickert (talk) 07:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

No te preocupes por el miedo de arrogancia; los prepotentes suelen ser inconciente de ese problema :) Y Music of Minnesota puede esperar tu regreso de viaje, por si tienes tiempo despues; los FARs tardan más que las FACs. En cuanto a Colorado, me voy a Vail cuando quiero juntarme con las panas de Caracas, y Beaver Creek cuando quiero más lujo, pero ultimamente, me estoy gustando a Utah. Espero que no hayas tenido el placer de esquiar sobre hielo en el Este de los EU :) Mi e-mail esta siempre a la orden, y me alegra que ya estás mejor y disfrutando de las temperaturas de tu niñez! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

He esquiado en el Este, jaja; por el nórdico, prefiero el Medio Oeste. Utah es hermosa - los desiertos y las montañas. Preguntaré unos amigos de locaciónes para esquiar. Las temperaturas aquí - bellísimas. Tan frio que las dientes se duelan, para que se sabe que esté en vivo :). Awickert (talk) 17:07, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Berrrrrro ... para eso, inventaron el Sensodyne! No hay nada como tener los dientes frios! Y yo conjelandome en Florida a los cincuenta grados ! Por lo menos, comí mis arepas y cachapas :) Bueno, pa'lante ... que disfrutas! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:39, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Tengo celos de tus arepas; otra cosa interesante es que en las 12 de la tarde ahora, el sol aquí es 22 grados arriba del horizonte. Qué mundo : ). Awickert (talk) 00:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

La harina pan se consigue ya en todos lados ... comprate una TostyArepa de Venezuela, y las puede hacer cualquier! Hasta Wiki lo explica! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Gracias, pero ya lo sé. Es que mi TostyArepa es en Colorado... poop. Awickert (talk) 00:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah, pues! Conformate entonces con una Malta Goya, por si los hay en Minnesota! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Malta Goya, jajaja. Todavía tengo Toddy, y con esto, todo está bien. Awickert (talk) 00:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

ah, pero yo tengo Cocosette, Toronto, Nucita, y varias chocolates de El Rey y Savoy! Y un muy buen restaurante en mi zona que hace todo (faltando solo el queso blanco). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:33, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Ahora entiendo - quieres que tengo celos por la vida en el sur : ). Que pena que se falta el queso blanco - por lo menos hay cheese curds en Wisconsin. Pero también he oido que hay gente en Miami que hacen queso fresco. Recibiste mi email? Lo mando a tu dirección de yahoo, Awickert (talk) 00:44, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Si, lo tengo ... pero estoy disfrutando demasiado el vacillon aqui :) No estoy en Miami ... fui solo para las navidades a ver a mis comadres ... te mando el menu del restaurante venezolano de mi zona para que te de hambre! En el rato que estuvimos hablando, has podido rehacer la Musica de Minnesota! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Trabajar es contrario a mí compulsión ser flojo. (La verdad es que estaba escribiendo entre haciendo mi trabajo... nuestra conversación fue un "mental health break".) Awickert (talk) 08:09, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Just catching up from a killer week. Thanks for the help there; you've been most generous! ResMar had a hard time accepting the closure of the last FAC, so your help is most appreciated! Just now reading his comments on the FAC about his lack of access to journal sources, I've left a note on the FAC. I can't promote unless your concerns are resolved, but am willing to leave the FAC open since you've so generously offered to work on the issues. In the meantime, Music of Minnesota is moving along; I do hope you'll be able to glance at it in the next few weeks or so. I owe you an e-mail on Venezuelan food-- will get to it as soon as I'm caught up from killer distractions this week! Glad you are safely home, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:08, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving the comment on the FAC page. I just left a note on ResMar's talk: I'm going to go full steam ahead if I have his help, but I can't handle the whole thing alone in a reasonable FAC time-frame and will request its close if I'm going to be the only one making edits. I'll make time to read through Music of MN and try to improve it. Awickert (talk) 06:20, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Hawaii hotspot

Hello. I've just been reading the FAC entry for this article. It looks like you were volunteering to look at bolstering some marginally reliable source(s), and I was just wondering where this was up to. I want to review this article at FAC, but would prefer to wait until you were done with whatever improvements you were looking at making. Let me know. Cheers, hamiltonstone (talk) 03:17, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I got some of it done a couple of days ago, but while I improved the representation of the science, I think I disimproved the layout of the article. I've got several thoughts and have been waiting to hear back from User:Resident Mario, who hasn't replied to me yet, and who actually hasn't made any comments since I started working on the article itself. If I don't hear back from him soon, I'm just going to overhaul some additional portions myself. The problem is that I basically stripped out a whole section on "controversy" which was sourced to an online article of a scientist whose beliefs around hotspots are the epitomy of fringe, and whose statements were in some places just plain wrong. But after going through that section, its whole original premise (of citing controversy around hotspots) was very much diffused, and the section should probably go somewhere else. But that involves messing with the whole article and while I know that this is a wiki, I usually like to avoid that on FAC's until I talk it over with its principal nominator. That, and the fact that just got off an airplane and proceeded to drive 14 hours, is the reason for my current holding pattern.

How about this: I'll ping ResMar once more, and if I don't hear from him in the next few days, I'll start in on the article. If I do hear from him, he and I will work collaboratively. Either way, I'll let you know when I'm satisfied with the factual accuracy (at least) and the writing style (if I can be so hopeful). Sound OK? Awickert (talk) 03:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

That's all great, and sounds very thorough. If format and style issues result as side-effects of the edits, others of us might pick that up and help fix them anyway. I'll keep an eye open and hopefully the article will be improved sufficiently to get it promoted at FAC. Your assistance in ensuring the reliance on peer-reviewed sources is much appreciated. Thanks. hamiltonstone (talk) 03:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Happy to help and sorry it took me so long. Fortunately, my travel is now at an end and I'll be able to push forward with this. Your assistance with format and style are very much appreciated. FYI, I requested ResMar's input here. Awickert (talk) 03:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Uh, Awd, you can do whatever you want, its not like I own the article :) Sorry for not getting back... ResMar 16:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Nooo problem; didn't want to mess with you system (if you had one). Thanks! (By the way, why am I "Awd"?) Awickert (talk) 16:07, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Awickert, whenever you get the chance, can you take a quick peek at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian – Emperor seamount chain/archive1 to check that the information is in order (no obligation, of course). It would be great if someone with knowledge in the field could give a stamp of approval for the list. Once again, only if you have the time. Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 23:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll check it out, though I bet it's OK as it's considerably less technical than the hotspot one.

As a general public service announcement, volcanology is far from my areas of expertise in geology. Awickert (talk) 00:15, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Closer than me, that's for sure ;) Dabomb87 (talk) 04:07, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Closer than many, unfortunately. I'd reckon that User:Black Tusk knows a lot more than me, but I know enough to be able to help with the list. Could take a day or two though... I have a backlog of work to get through here (sorry!). Awickert (talk) 05:45, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Igneous petrology

Thanks - looks a good start - I'll see what I can do... Babakathy (talk) 07:16, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Community to-do list

I'm at the point where I'd like to clear my backlog of wiki-obligations and then get on to editing articles that I'm more excited about editing, probably at a slower pace. Therefore, I am formulating a public to-do list here. These are all items that other people are expecting/hoping/encouraging me to do. If you are here, you may feel free to add to this list, but with the understanding that your addition may be refactored and/or moved to a lower-priority list, depending on how I judge my interest in and capability to finish this work. Awickert (talk) 21:46, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] List

Hawaii hotspot - FAC, needs review and some work
List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian – Emperor seamount chain - FLC, probably doesn't need much more than a spot-check
True polar wander and Pole shift hypothesis - separate the science from the Hollywood fantasy (latter) and improve the former as a consequence
Cirque - Which are really cirques? Hopefully just a matter of quickly looking up references.

[edit] Comments

This is good to see. I think 'Hawaii hotspot' may not make it through FAC on this nomination without your able assistance: i'll continue to keep an eye on that, and will review it only once i've seen you've had a good go at it. Thanks for your contributions. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:43, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry - I missed your note among the mess. I have a bunch more to do, but don't have the energy (or motivation) at the moment to do it all by myself... so either it will be a slow go, ResMar will get more free time and pitch in and it will be a quicker go, or this FAC nom will be closed and I'll plug away at it slowly. Thanks for your continued interest; you'll probably be waiting for some time for me, so I'll ping you when I think that the article is ready, Awickert (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

...Oh, and say, where would I get the references? ResMar 21:06, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

If you work on the section I left on your talk page, any introductory geophysics textbook would do, for example, there are ones by Fowler, Davies, and Turcotte&Schubert. But if you think it would take you overly long to hunt that all down or don't have access to these books, I'm happy to just do it, especially as I have a 3-day weekend (yippee!) and you seem to be hosed.

For sources in general... many scientists these days are making their papers publicly available on their personal websites. Google scholar will often find if that is the case. Otherwise, you can skim the abstracts and use me as a delivery service; I check my email frequently and don't mind taking the time. And that offer is open for the duration of the time I edit Wikipedia and have access to those sources.

Anyway, if you can give me an estimation of your availability and whether you'd prefer me to tackle all the more terminology-heavy or technical sections, that would help me guide the trajectory of my work over there. Happy Friday! Awickert (talk) 22:07, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey Awickert, would you mind striking or capping the comments that you consider resolved at the FLC for the List of volcanoes in the Hawaiian-Emperor seamount chain? It would help immensely in trying to get everything organized and for me to see what's still to be completed as I'm trying to help ResMar get this finished up. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 01:17, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

Just did it. Thanks for helping ResMar - he seems pretty busy. I just wrote this there as well, but once we decide on a convention for the dating, it's a simple matter of transferring information, and I'm happy to help with that. Awickert (talk) 05:26, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

[edit] Have a hot Toddy!

Para poder, fuerza e energia! Or, when facing a wreck, Toddy! I hope this cheers you :) User:Tim Vickers might be able to help on that RSN hypothesis issue; he has a calming effect on such discussions, in case you want to knock on his door. Saludos, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:46, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

It's honestly taken way more time than it's importance to me should have permitted. I think that all I've achieved is a failure to properly compile the multiple arguments that Viriditas was using, which resulted in a general lack of happiness and being called a good-for-nothing liar (to Viriditas if you read this: this is how I interpret what you say. Probably I am misrepresenting again. But that seems to be my prerogative.). Argh. In any case, thanks for the offer, but I'd feel really irresponsible to pull someone I don't know into that sort of a mess, so I'll leave it be.

Gracias por el toddy, lo necesito. Awickert (talk) 04:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Oh good grief. What is this all about? Send me a mail? William M. Connolley (talk) 09:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

A completely non-worthwhile issue (Snowball Earth vs. SN Hypothesis) in which User:Viriditas continually told me that I was misrepresenting him, though at every point I thought that I was perfectly representing what he had told me up to that point. I think that he had a whole bunch of arguments in his pocket that he cycled through and he thought that I knew (though I didn't), so somehow the ones he told me and that I responded to were always the wrong ones. Anyway, he hates me now, I (being me) tried to apologize and reconcile (instead of bitching about how he was misrepresenting me and grossly failing WP:AGF), and he blew me off multiple times. So I'll send you a mail, grow a thicker skin, and take this as a learning experience that sometimes I shouldn't try to put myself in the other person's shoes and reconcile, especially when they won't put themselves in mine. Awickert (talk) 16:23, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Sorry about the wikidrama. :-(. Awickert (talk) 16:25, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

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