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Greg Gutfeld's "Good Joke": "What Do You Call An Angry Feminist On Mother's Day? You Don't"

May 11, 2012 6:56 pm ET

From the May 11 edition of Fox News' The Five:

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    • Author by magnolialover (May 11, 2012 7:03 pm ET)
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      What do you call a not very funny comedian trying to be funny?

      Greg.
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      • Author by MickD (May 11, 2012 7:30 pm ET)
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        Q: What do you call a man who makes jokes like that?

        A: Dateless and Alone
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    • Author by bailorgana (May 11, 2012 7:11 pm ET)
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      What do you called a toad/sexist pig that thinks it a human being. GREG!!!!
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (May 11, 2012 7:15 pm ET)
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        What's the most confusing day to Gutless?...Father's day. What an asswhole.
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    • Author by pete592 (May 11, 2012 7:16 pm ET)
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      Gutfeld is a case study in why right wingers need to avoid any and all attempts at comedy.

      Lame... not "wump wump" kind of lame... just plain stupidly, desolately, boringly, put-you-to-sleep lame.
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      • Author by Spiffy (May 11, 2012 10:56 pm ET)
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        They see the other side using humor as a weapon to tear apart their beliefs and they want to be able to do the same, but they're about half a step up from Borat in understanding how humor actually works.
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    • Author by mata ruach (May 11, 2012 7:17 pm ET)
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      Gutfield, your Mother must be proud of you. Bravo.
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      • Author by goodfight (May 12, 2012 12:40 am ET)
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        She probably still breaks down in tears when she drives past all the churches and orphanages where she might have ditched him.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (May 11, 2012 7:18 pm ET)
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      Gutfeld's jokes are perfect for situations where laughter would impolite.

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    • Author by shaggles (May 11, 2012 7:25 pm ET)
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      Greg Gutfeld wouldn't know a good joke if it jumped up and bit him on the ass.
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    • Author by CAL (May 11, 2012 7:39 pm ET)
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      Angry feminists?? A tired right wing cliche that has never had much to do with actual reality. If you are looking for anger, we don't have to look any further than today's "conservatives." They hate the poor, the gay, the government, union workers, women, any non-Christian faith or philosophy, minorities, etc ad nauseum. Hell .... pretty much their entire agenda and ideology is rooted in making life as difficult as possible for anyone who doesn't belong to their warped political club. Attaching "angry" as an adjective to any other group is small potatoes by comparison.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (May 13, 2012 6:11 pm ET)
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        any non-Christian faith or philosoph
        I believe that they have been known to attack some allegedly Christian sects as well. Mormonism comes to mind, just a few short years ago.

        Now that the presidential race is between a Mormon and a black guy, they seem to have forgotten there previous assertions about that cult.
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      • Author by mstrjcksn (May 13, 2012 8:52 pm ET)
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        Good Lord.
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    • Author by worrierking (May 11, 2012 7:42 pm ET)
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      I know funnier morticians than this guy.
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      • Author by MickD (May 11, 2012 8:06 pm ET)
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        I know funnier mortician clients than this guy.
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        • Author by bilko (May 11, 2012 10:33 pm ET)
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          Obviously, neither of you do.
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        • Author by MiniTru (May 12, 2012 1:56 am ET)
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          I know funnier post-crematorium clients than this guy.

          But, to be fair, what do they have in common? They're both ashes.
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    • Author by Paul S (May 11, 2012 7:45 pm ET)
         
      Well, I’ve been lurking on MMFA for a while now. Today, after watching this and the “Temper Tantrum” video, I joined up and donated $100 to MMFA. Who is this dipwad anyway? And some consider him a comedian? Sheesh!
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    • Author by bailorgana (May 11, 2012 7:50 pm ET)
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      And Greg arn't you an Atheist, and alot of people are not crazy about Atheist, so I would think twice about casting the first stone.
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      • Author by Soulfader72 (May 12, 2012 2:24 pm ET)
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        I suspect he's gay as well. I'm serious, look at the way he "pals around" with Dana. She's his f@g hag. No disrespect, just couldn't think of another word.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (May 11, 2012 8:26 pm ET)
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      Here's another good joke that Gutfeld should appreciate:


      Q: What do you call Greg Gutfeld's dad on Father's Day?

      A: Well somebody has to figure out who he is first.
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      • Author by mjh (May 11, 2012 11:24 pm ET)
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        Q: What do you call Greg Gutfeld's dad on Father's Day?


        A: A dumbazz who should have pulled out early


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    • Author by DAWUSS (May 11, 2012 8:33 pm ET)
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      People like me see Mother's Day as a sensitive topic.

      Although I shouldn't expect him to be aware of it, that headline alone has me peeved off.
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    • Author by nixter (May 11, 2012 9:18 pm ET)
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      What do you call angry fox viewers ?
      Teabaggers
      Neo Nazis
      The Klan
      Racists
      homophobes
      gun nuts....
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    • Author by crazymonkeylady (May 11, 2012 11:18 pm ET)
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      I'm a mother, and a feminist. I taught my daughter never to listen to Fox News. That little bit of advice she already has payed attention to. She knows that Fox is Toxic Waste.
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    • Author by crazymonkeylady (May 11, 2012 11:22 pm ET)
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      By the way, we Can't stop. Because the GOP wants to ban abortion and ban birth control, deny equal pay for equal work. They even say Women should go back to not voting. What a silly little boy he is.
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    • Author by phlcstgan (May 12, 2012 12:27 am ET)
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      How does Greg Gutfeld know he's not getting any tonight?
      His hand falls asleep.
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      • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 10:37 pm ET)
           
        "How does Greg Gutfeld know he's not getting any tonight?
        His hand falls asleep."


        Funny -- I'd have thought that would be an indication he had gotten some; his hand falling asleep from exhaustion . . .

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    • Author by highlyunlikely (May 12, 2012 12:45 am ET)
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      I dunno, but I do know I'll be hearing from my two children and two grandchildren on that day AND the day after, which happens to be my birthday. Maybe it's because I'm a happy feminist.
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      • Author by Bronwyn (May 12, 2012 1:40 pm ET)
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        Happy Birthday and Mother's day, HU! Those grand-babies talking already?
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        • Author by highlyunlikely (May 12, 2012 5:20 pm ET)
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          not quite. They're 9 and 7 months. The older one crawls and they both sit up.
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    • Author by PBVV (May 12, 2012 1:53 am ET)
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      Oh Greg, that was so sad to watch.
      You are still scowling like you did during potty training!
      And Honey, quit that slouching! Sit up straight! Your mama issues are showing!
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    • Author by D.W. Skinner (May 12, 2012 7:27 am ET)
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      wow... his insides do match his outside.
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    • Author by Clouseau (May 12, 2012 9:10 am ET)
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      Can't we all just get along?

      Q. What does a feminist use as a contraceptive?
      A. Her personality.
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      • Author by teh.stoopid.lib (May 12, 2012 10:31 am ET)
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        No no no it goes like this...
        Q What does a feminist use as a contraceptive?
        A YOUR "personality"

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      • Author by juliajayne1 (May 12, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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        I think you and Gutfield need to buy a clue, because this is what feminism is: a doctrine that advocates equal rights for women


        A woman or a man can be a feminist if they advocate the above. I'm sorry for you or any female in your life if you don't. Your burden, to be sure. Ta.

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        • Author by Clouseau (May 12, 2012 2:04 pm ET)
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          What do you mean by "rights"?
          Define your vague terms please, ma'am.
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          • Author by mjh (May 12, 2012 2:23 pm ET)
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            What do you mean by "rights"?


            Oh, you know -- things like voting, getting paid the same wages for the same work . . . that sorta thing.

            Boy -- you know the quality of trolls is going down, when they consider "rights" a "vague term" that needs to be "defined" . . .


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            • Author by juliajayne1 (May 12, 2012 2:58 pm ET)
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              Regular words have no meaning anymore to the RWNJ's. It's quite sad that they've perverted a perfectly good language for hate and profit's sake. Nothing vague about that agenda, except it's lost on the sycophants like our bud here who probably is inclined to think that RWNJ pols have HIS best interest at heart when they couldn't give a hot damn about him or his family.
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            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:35 am ET)
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              Voting - women don't have the right to vote? Really?

              "getting paid the same wages for the same work" - now the cat is out of the bag - you want communism. In the US Constitution - there is no such enumerated right. But those rights are clearly spelled out in Lenin's Communist manifesto. You should stop responding at this point because I fear we may be seriously stretching the limits of your intellect.
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              • Author by thewhatnow? (May 13, 2012 9:48 am ET)
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                In the world of the right winger, feminism = communism. Got it, thanks.
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                • Author by juliajayne1 (May 13, 2012 10:18 am ET)
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                  In the newest installment of "The Pinko Panther" our defective detective sees a commie under every woman's bed!
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                  • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 12:46 pm ET)
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                    Of course, the only reason he can see their beds in the first place is because he's breaking into their houses and raping them.
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                  • Author by juliajayne1 (May 13, 2012 6:01 pm ET)
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                    Really, The "Pinko" Panther wasn't that funny? Lol! I thought it was kinda swell! ;-)
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              • Author by congero6189599 (May 13, 2012 10:46 am ET)
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                Lenin didn't write the Communist Manifesto! You have nerve to talk about intellect! I think you should stop Inspector although it's too late to keep you from making a fool of yourself it might help to limit the damage.
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                • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 3:18 pm ET)
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                  ROFL!!

                  I love it when these trolls self immolate -- especially after they make statements like:

                  You should stop responding at this point because I fear we may be seriously stretching the limits of your intellect.


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              • Author by teh.stoopid.lib (May 13, 2012 10:57 am ET)
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                Lenin's Communist manifesto

                HA!
                You should stop responding at this point because I fear we may be seriously stretching the limits of your intellect.

                I see you're talking to yourself again. Seek help.
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              • Author by yoiksaway (May 13, 2012 12:13 pm ET)
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                "Voting - women don't have the right to vote? Really?"--Clouseau

                Did it make you angry when learning that feminists secured the right to vote?

                This Clouseau must have gone into a rit of fealous jage.

                You are forgetting the most important fact - motive.
                --Inspector Clouseau
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              • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 12:45 pm ET)
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                Why don't you believe women should be paid the same for doing the same amount of work?
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          • Author by juliajayne1 (May 12, 2012 3:17 pm ET)
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            You know, I used an actual dictionary definition of the word Feminism? But I'm supposing that you, being one of the bratty, intolerant, whiny kids in the vast GOP slop waste land, who wants to have everything your way, most likely feels like an actual dictionary is now "controversial", eh? It's nothing but willful ignorance. I hope you're proud. Oy!

            Sheesh! What is it with these noobs? Ha! ;-)
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            • Author by Chameo (May 12, 2012 4:58 pm ET)
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              Dictionaries have a well-known liberal bias, JJ, don't you know? After all, the dictionary definition of liberty doesn't even MENTION guns.
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          • Author by mata ruach (May 12, 2012 6:29 pm ET)
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            Clouseau, I love your handle! Like your namesake, you haven't a clue!
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          • Author by phlcstgan (May 12, 2012 11:36 pm ET)
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            Well, equal pay for equal work, for one thing, which your boy in Wisconsin just repealed.
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            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:45 am ET)
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              equal pay for equal work is a communist concept whereby the state controls all aspects of economic activity, including negotiation for labor. It is not an enumerated right under the constitution.
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              • Author by congero6189599 (May 13, 2012 11:01 am ET)
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                So is it a communist concept when the founders say "All men are created equal?"


                "...Equal pay for equal work is the concept of labour rights that individuals doing the same work should receive the same remuneration. Among international human rights law, the Article 7 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights[1] and the Article 15 of African Charter on Human and Peoples' Rights[2] ensure the "eqal pay for equal work". In America, for example, the law states that "employers may not pay unequal wages to men and women who perform jobs that require substantially equal skill, effort and responsibility, and that are performed under similar working conditions within the same establishment."[3]

                It is most commonly used in a context of sexual discrimination, as equal pay for women. Equal pay does not simply relate to basic salary but also to the full range of benefits, non salary payments, bonuses and allowances that are paid.
                Your text to link here...

                So a question of fairness and equality to you Inspector is a communist concept? Who would have thought our founders were Communist. You really should stop vomiting up memorized phrases. It shows you don't understand or know WTF you are talking about and your cuddeling of discrimination is actually making us look good. So you've failed on 2 fronts.
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                • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 6:30 pm ET)
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                  The very notion that the state must enforce "equal pay for equal work" wages in what was once a free market negotiation necessarily means that employers and employees are unable to negotiate labor contracts at whatever they believe to be their economic advantage. Which means that the state now will step in and decide what your wage is going to be on the basis of some formula by some bureaucrat. This is how it is done in many european countries, many of which are near collapsing economically. I'm sure that you want the same economic collapse to happen here as well. Meanwhile, China continues to grow at a rate of 8% annually and I can assure you that in China wage rates are negotiated without state intervention.
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                  • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 8:37 pm ET)
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                    China's "wages" aren't enough to even feed a family of three. There are also practically no rights when it comes to being an employee. Have you ever studied history? Have you ever seen how "prosperous" life was during the Gilded age where there was absolutely no government intervention? People could become unionized nor negotiate wages since there was no protection from abuse (which was rampant). People couldn't just decide to start a business willy nilly either.
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                  • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 8:45 pm ET)
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                    Also i must say i find it quite fascinating that you are using an authoritarian, communist country as proof of how dangerous socialism/communism is.

                    Before minimum wage laws, it was not a "free market negotiation". It was "you are paid what i feel like". There were no safety standards, health benefits, vacations or even compensation for accidents caused form using faulty and dangerous machinery. You became incapable of working then you were kicked out and replaced by some else and if that new employee demanded something as outrageous as enough money to actually eat, then they were kicked out and replaced.
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                  • Author by Bronwyn (May 13, 2012 10:33 pm ET)
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                    Clouseau, you say
                    equal pay for equal work is a communist concept whereby the state controls all aspects of economic activity, including negotiations for labor.
                    You're saying that's a bad thing, correct?

                    Then you say
                    Meanwhile, China continues to grow at a rate of 8% annually and I can assure you that in China wage rates are negotiated without state intervention.
                    You're saying that's a good thing for China, correct? Communist China? So in one paragraph you state that Communist State controls all aspects of labor negotiations and in the next you state "China's wage rates are negotiated without state intervention. Which is it?

                    Not all unions are created equal there are those (by the Government) used to empower a Government (a bad thing) and those (by the People) used to empower the People (a good thing).

                    You have heard "first they came for the trade Unions..." (a bad thing) AND "Government of the people, by the people, for the people. (a good thing)

                    It's when the government takes control of the people's unions that it gets ugly. BTW, one of the first things Hitler and Stalin did was go after the trade unions.

                    One of the principal means by which the Communists excert their influence is through trade unions.
                    In Czechoslovakia the rise to power of the Communist Party was greatly facilitated by Communist control of the trade-unions movement.

                    On the other hand, in countries like the United States, Great Britian and Germany, The non-communist trade union movement has acted as one of the most important bulworks against the growth of Communist Parties.
                    From Lenin on Russian Trade Unions Under Captialism, 1894-1904 By Thomas T. Hammond
                    underline added

                    You point out how well China is doing, yes it is becoming a more powerful government, but it's people as indeviduals are not prospering, because of the unfare labor practices.

                    Blame this countires woes on deregulation of the Banks and big corportations, and the greed and corruption of the CEO's of those institutions. Blame them for not wanting to pay a decent living wage and benefits to their employees, so they stripped them of their jobs and sent them to other countries, where they now pay their employees a below standard living wage. Blame giving those rich corporations susidies and not making them pay taxes. Blame their greed on shipping our factories and jobs else where. And stop blaming (the policies) and the people that want see this country and all it's people prosper. Not just the government and the top one percent.

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                    • Author by Bronwyn (May 13, 2012 11:00 pm ET)
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                      Sorry S/B unfair, I'm sure there are more. Spell check not working, couldn't save, I kept losing the post, and freezing up. SO from the time I started and by the time I finally posted, I had lost some of my brilliant (ha!) points and where I was going with this AND In the mean time other posters have made a few of the same points. Oh well, Mama said ...........................
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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 11:54 pm ET)
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                      I've been to China several times. The system they have in place there is not ideal, but economically it is far more free and capitalistic than what is in place here. Socially there are fewer rights, but that is changing. Here it is moving in the wrong direction.

                      The labor situation in the factories is not as bad as the hype the us media would have you believe, and it is changing rather rapidly for the better.

                      Very soon it will be a non-issue.

                      Meanwhile, back at the ranch, how are are all the bankers and lawyers here going to eat in the future? You think they might cannibalize the rest of the economy to buy some more time?
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                      • Author by mjh (17 hours and 30 minutes ago)
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                        "I've been to China several times. The system they have in place there is not ideal, but economically it is far more free and capitalistic than what is in place here." -- Pinky


                        You should move there, Pinky.

                        That is, unless you're turned off by "communist concepts" such as equal pay for equal work . . .


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                      • Author by Bronwyn (8 hours and 47 minutes ago)
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                        Clouseau wrote,
                        The labor situation in the factories is not as bad as the hype the us (sic) media would have you believe, and it is changing rather rapidly for the better.

                        Very soon it will be a non-issue.
                        What a crock of...............

                        China employers still discriminate on basis of height, looks, health, home, sex and age. There is still a very high turn over. Workers often don't get their pension or severance pay promised them.

                        Labor companies and employers dictate the terms. If a worker complains about low wages, long hours, unsafe, unsanitary conditions, or too harsh conditions, they can easily be replaced. There are millions of desperate workers waiting in line for the job.

                        A great percent of the global work force comes from China. ('The Economist' predicts it will be 40% by 2030) Chinese workers get a relatively small piece of the economic pie. At the same time details of labor costs are a carefully guarded secret in China. Analysts estimate that the wages and benefits per worker are about a tenth of what they are in the U.S.

                        It's not just the Chinese Companies many U.S. companies are violating Chinese labor laws and regulations as well as the code of conduct these big companies signed when they joined the Fair Labor Association. The FLA gets much of the credit for what improvements have been made.

                        China's rapid growth was driven by it's cheap labor. But China has not had great growth in as far as individual's prosperity. Their individuals lifestyles haven't improved greatly.

                        In other words the benefits of China's great growth are not shared equally for many of it's people it has been negligible growth.

                        I have friends that quit their big salary jobs with those big U.S. Corporation, that sent them to China. Because they found the working conditions and the exploitation of the Chinese workers deplorable.

                        You are either in denial or a total liar.

                        Rest in contentment with your head stuck in the sand, Clouseau.
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                • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 6:49 pm ET)
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                  But lets do a simply hypothetical thought experiment.
                  Lets say that you and a couple friends are very talented engineers and the three of you just secured VC funding for a ground breaking chip design that will take 3 years to reach fruition. You plan out your design and implementation roadmap and you calculate that you need to hire 2 very good hardware, 2 very good software engineers to be able to demonstrate a working product. The VC's have budgeted 150k salary + 1% equity for each. After many long and tedious interviews etc. you've managed to hire 1 hw and 1 sw at that price, and you have found a tremendously talented and experienced hw engineer that demands 175k. Fortunately, there is a female sw engineer (yes they do exist) that you know to be good that is willing to work for 125k + 1% equity. Should, in your opinion, the state step in and block these deals in the name of "fairness", thereby putting the future of this endeavor into jeopardy?
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                  • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 7:30 pm ET)
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                    "But lets do a simply hypothetical thought experiment." -- Pinky


                    You already tried above -- and failed.

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                  • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 8:40 pm ET)
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                    That is a mutually stated agreement. But why must the SW engineer be offered less? She may be willing to work for less, but when both are required assets, why is she being paid less for doing more or less equal work?
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                    • Author by Clouseau (17 hours and 36 minutes ago)
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                      In the hypothetical she is being offered less only because the hw guy is demanding more and thats all that the vc's budgeted. It is simply by chance that she is female and a sw engineer. And in this hypothetical the vc's are penny pinchers who are following a cookie cutter financing model.
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                  • Author by Deluded (May 13, 2012 8:53 pm ET)
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                    Clouseau, that analogy you gave is not relevant to the women's wages issue because it is not an accurate portrayal of it.

                    The real issues with wage equality for women is that women are not being employed or promoted into better paying positions as much as men, even though said women have shown that they have similar if not better credentials than men, and can do the same or better job as them.

                    Your analogy is more suited for the argument for against payment of equal wages for out of country companies. Your analogy is also arguing for the fact that if people in Nike sweatshops work those hours for very little pay, it's all right as they chose to work for such little pay.

                    Should you in your opinion the state step in and and block such sweatshops and ban paying workers in other countries working for an American country much lower wages than an American worker of the same nature would receive in the name of "fairness"? Thereby putting the profits of such companies into jeopardy?
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                    • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:39 pm ET)
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                      But... but... like, what if a bunch of big, strong men were building a rocket to go to, like, MARS, an' it shot lasers and also had a gun that shot ice cream, but then some dumb ol' girl showed up an' she was like "I want to get equal pay because I'm a commie and gross and I have cooties!" and then you didn't have enough money for the ice cream? THEN YOU STOOPID LIBS WOULD HAVE NO ICE CREAM.
                      Another librul is helpless against my brilliant hypothetical scenarios.
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                      • Author by mr. l (May 13, 2012 11:21 pm ET)
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                        I... I can't fathom life without ice cream! *whimper*

                        Bring back the fascists who will make sure we all have ice cream on every 4th Thursday between 2:30 pm and 2:35 pm!!!

                        Long live the pistachio!!!
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                    • Author by Clouseau (17 hours and 17 minutes ago)
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                      "The real issues with wage equality for women is that women are not being employed or promoted into better paying positions as much as men, even though said women have shown that they have similar if not better credentials than men, and can do the same or better job as them."

                      If it is true that women are being underpaid, then they should quit and start their own company, and kick ass by underbidding their over paid competitors. If the market is mis-pricing an asset, then all it takes is for someone to recognize the fact and exploit it. The fact that this has not happened suggests to me that the premise is false.

                      "Your analogy is more suited for the argument for against payment of equal wages for out of country companies. Your analogy is also arguing for the fact that if people in Nike sweatshops work those hours for very little pay, it's all right as they chose to work for such little pay."

                      The wage disparity between china and us is partly misleading (stuff is a lot lot cheaper over there) and partly a function of lots of farmers being screwed by the central planners to abandon their farming (which is a communist controlled mess) and to funnel them into a very capitalistic oriented manufacturing, science, and engineering sector.

                      The state creates the initial problem, and since many fail to notice, they then mistakenly call on the state to provide the solution.
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                      • Author by Johaely (16 hours and 38 minutes ago)
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                        If it is true that women are being underpaid, then they should quit and start their own company, and kick ass by underbidding their over paid competitors. If the market is mis-pricing an asset, then all it takes is for someone to recognize the fact and exploit it. The fact that this has not happened suggests to me that the premise is false.


                        You god damn idiot. It's not as easy as just "screw this i'm starting my own company!" What you keep repeating is not only encouraging lower wages but also a completely ridiculous idea. People can't just open a company and magically become successful, nor would it solve the systemic wage inequality problem. Libertarians have no solutions to actual problems, ever.

                        Just because women don't decide to do something as stupid as what you suggest does not deny the problem of wage inequality.


                        The wage disparity between china and us is partly misleading (stuff is a lot lot cheaper over there) and partly a function of lots of farmers being screwed by the central planners to abandon their farming (which is a communist controlled mess) and to funnel them into a very capitalistic oriented manufacturing, science, and engineering sector.


                        You manage to contradict yourself in one run on sentence. So Communist China is doing great and better than us, but its because government is evil and forcing people into capitalism.
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                        • Author by phlcstgan (10 hours and 3 minutes ago)
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                          Libertarians have no solutions to actual problems, ever.

                          That could be their new slogan!
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              • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 12:41 pm ET)
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                equal pay for equal work is a communist concept

                Obvious troll is obvious.
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              • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 3:33 pm ET)
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                "equal pay for equal work is a communist concept" -- Pinky


                So, Pinky -- if you believe women should not be paid the same as men for doing the same job, simply because they're women, I'm guessing it's not that big a stretch to say you don't believe certain minorities {i.e., African Americans} should be paid at all . . .

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                • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 6:17 pm ET)
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                  I believe that the state should not be involved in economic negotiation among otherwise free participants. It is the beginning of slavery. Doing so creates economic inefficiencies which, over time, creates economic collapse. The US of A is going to have an economic collapse very soon. Probably this year. Once interest rates start to tick up, its game over. The state will be unable to fix what it has broken, and none of you on this forum will understand what will be happening and why.

                  But getting back to the equal pay for equal work nonsense - if the market place is severely underpricing women's labor, then why don't women entrepreneurs form businesses whereby they hire primarily women and just out-compete and drive out of business male owned and male employing competitors who are overpaying for the same work? Why does the state have to have loan subsidies, grants, favorable contract bidding, etc. just to keep such entities afloat?
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                  • Author by juliajayne1 (May 13, 2012 6:52 pm ET)
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                    Yes, yes, we're all inflationary socilaists. We get your schtick. And believe me, that's all it is.

                    How about we rehire all of those teachers and government employees to instantly decrease unemployment. Let's do something about the bad debt from the housing crisis and let's spend on useful projects like infrastructure and a green economy. Let's STOP larding the rich with unfair advantages and tax cuts.

                    It's not rocket science but the fact is that Republicans don't want to fix the economy because they service the rich. So there's no will to do common sense things. All of your double speak deosn't cloud those facts.
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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 8:56 pm ET)
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                      You are hopelessly confused and are purposefully avoiding my main point about government induced wage "fairness". But I'll bite and play along by focusing on a couple of different topics you bring up to avoid the pain.

                      Education - the US spends more per capita than any other country except switzerland and norway. The end product of that waste are generation after generation of third world status dummies (us ranks 37th in math and science). That is because all those teachers and administrators are also dummies. That is because the system values brain washing social engineering and not math and science. Education in the US is a total and complete failure. The system is broken and the only reason the US has not collapsed economically is because of the h1b visa.

                      Bankster fraud - the bankster fraud induced mini collapse in 2008 is a systemic failure whereby the corrupt politicians on the left and right are simply serving the city of london bank that runs the whole central bank scam. This is a government protected monopoly run by the same cabal that has destroyed the US education system (stupid people can't figure out how the banking system works) and would prefer to run the whole show as a powerful socialist welfare state of total economic and social slavery. That and drastic population reduction is their goal.
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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:11 pm ET)
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                        Actually with because of NO Child Left Behind, schools have been forced to focus on teaching science and Math "for the Test" lest they want funding. Its not just teaching science and math. There is no point in doing so if we aren't going to do anything with it. We must teach valuable skills along with basic skills. Not every one is going to become an engineer or a chemist so focusing solely on math and science's will not advance society and magically improve the country.

                        You beliefs that the goal of Government is Population control and pointless slavery are just sheer paranoia. I wouldn't be surprised if you even believed in the Free Masons and the Illuminati. This is the thing that strikes me as idiotic of the NWOs "plan": what benefit and purpose is there in reducing the worlds population and creating a global slavery?
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                        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:26 pm ET)
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                          Pointless slavery: have you gone through a tsa check point lately? How about this: go to youtube and search for "police brutality".

                          Population control: google "eugenics quotes" - you will be surprised just how many "leaders" and "academics" are advocating mass genocide.
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                          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:54 pm ET)
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                            I've gone through TSA recently. Last December and January to be exact. While quite annoying the process needed to actually board a plane, its far from "slavery". Maybe you should actually see how it works in a dictatorship. It's not even close to what happens in the U.S. The biggest problem with Survivalist libertarians is that they consider having to actually do anything they don't want "slavery" and an "infringement upon their rights".

                            Google "Nibiru 2012". You'll find out how many people are stupid enough to believe that we would somehow crash with a seemingly invisible planet sized object.
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                      • Author by juliajayne1 (May 13, 2012 9:44 pm ET)
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                        I'm not confused about a damn thing. I'm just choosing not to particiapte on your field of play. You haven't refuted anything I said.

                        I got a good public education growing up. And there is definitive proof that charter schools and other so called "private" schools take tax dollars and do not produce any better students than public schools. Of course the Kochs and Devos and other rich people of the world are making a play to privatize everything (schools included) and saying that will be make everything better. That's nonesense.

                        Schools have been de-funded. That's part of the reason that they're not doing as well as they should.

                        As usual, the biggest socialists are those who want to privitize profit and socialize loss.

                        And a large part of the problem with the banks is that they weren't regulated enough. That's what happened in the Great Depression as well, and it's happening now for the same damn reason.

                        Your meme that government can't fix anything is stale and inaccurate. But you're blinded by some cock-eyed ideology. You're full of it, bud.
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                      • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:20 pm ET)
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                        I love privileged white dudes lecturing us about how things are "slavery". It's adorable.
                        Also, dude, it's your side that doesn't want science taught in schools, so I don't know what you're getting at there.
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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:14 pm ET)
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                      "How about we rehire all of those teachers and government employees to instantly decrease unemployment."

                      Because those sectors of the economy do not produce anything that anyone (and particularly the Chinese) wants.

                      The sh*t has hit the fan already. Geitner and Clinton were just recently in China groveling. They created a dissident side show circus as cover.
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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:16 pm ET)
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                        So you are against hiring teachers or in favor? Make up your damn mind.
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                        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:31 pm ET)
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                          Most teachers in the US are incompetent dummies.
                          The current system is a total failure.
                          The only way to reverse things is with a voucher program in which retired scientists and engineers can form schools free of the government run education bureaucracy nightmare. Otherwise, over time the h1b's will stop coming to the US and stay in Asia. Then its game over.
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                          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:46 pm ET)
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                            The system is a failure because we stopped actually caring about education. Ever since Reagan and the end of the Cold War, we haven't given a purpose for school diplomas. Blue collar jobs were shipped abroad to countries where CEOs don't have to worry about pesky things like minimum wage, safety standards or human rights. We became a service industry and it's not because of government but because of INEFFICIENT government.
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                          • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:21 pm ET)
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                            Most teachers in the US are incompetent dummies.

                            Says the guy who thinks Lenin wrote the Communist Manifesto.
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                          • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 10:43 pm ET)
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                            "Most teachers in the US are incompetent dummies." -- Pinky


                            Well, yours definitely was . . .

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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:20 pm ET)
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                        Because those sectors of the economy do not produce anything that anyone (and particularly the Chinese) wants.


                        Last i checked, education was an extremely valuable asset.
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                        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:34 pm ET)
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                          Primary education in China, India, Switzerland, Germany, Norway - those are extremely valuable assets.

                          Your average US high school diploma is toilet paper.
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                          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:13 pm ET)
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                            Because its been devalued ever since Reagan and the end of the Cold War. We encouraged businesses to send their factories abroad where they don't have to worry about such silly things like unions, minimum wage, safety standards or human rights. Our white collar professions completely outnumber blue collar.

                            But you know what, it's funny that you are touting countries where there is a big government involvement in education as paragons of why government should get out of education (when in reality, when it comes to curriculum it doesn't have much involvement, except in red States). Many of those countries have compulsory education (once again government involvement), government funding and grants, public higher education as well as some relative level of standardization as well as diversity. Our problem is not that we don't teach enough math and sciences. Our problem is that we don't teach enough, period.
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                  • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 7:36 pm ET)
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                    "I believe that the state should not be involved in economic negotiation among otherwise free participants." -- Pinky


                    Ah, the 'ol libertarian "the state must not get involved" schtick.

                    The rightwingnuts always trot that out in defense of the wealthiest one percent -- but it always evaporates in the cases of women's right to chose, gay marriage, and warrantless wiretaps . . .

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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:06 pm ET)
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                      The wealthiest 1% derive their income from the government protected monopoly status of the federal reserve private banking system. The secret service will arrest anyone who attempts commerce without an "approved" (aka federal reserve note) medium of exchange. The federal government trades interest bearing notes, bonds, and bills for non interesting bearing federal reserve notes. The percentage difference is the flow of wealth that is the basis of the less than 1%'s wealth accumulated since 1913.
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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:19 pm ET)
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                        Last i checked bartering is not illegal. As long as you are not dealing with illegal or dangerous substances (lats i checked, precious metals weren't either), you would not be in any trouble with the law. Falsifying mint, on the hand, is. And trying to engage in an official transaction through bartering will simply be declined.
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                        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:40 pm ET)
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                          Barter is impossible to stop. If they thought they could get away with making it illegal and figure out how to actually stop it - you know they would have done it already. So what they are now doing is trying to attack small business and small farmers.
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                          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:59 pm ET)
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                            Why would they try to stop bartering? It's not hurting them in any way. You give Government way too much credit. They aren't as overreaching as you think they are.

                            So what they are now doing is trying to attack small business and small farmers.


                            How, by requiring them to not do whatever the hell they want? No person is an island on their own and no person can do as they feel and not expect to see consequences for it. You can't just use your employees and pay them less than what their work is worth. You will feel consequences for it. We no longer live in an absolute "might makes right" society. The system is broken and could be far better, but its still far fairer than when we had a "free market".

                            There are minimum standard to follow as well as costs to living in society. Government does its best to look for a way to fund itself while not shooting itself in the foot. Things like Taxes, permits and regulations are well within the powers of government.
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                            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:33 pm ET)
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                              You are mistaken. Government is run by obedient political prostitutes who routinely sell their vote to the less than 1% bankster elite. You could easily deduce this outcome if you did some research and simply figured out how the banking system works.

                              The regulations are there to create an uneven playing field so that, as an example, parasitic companies like Monsanto can take over ownership of the food supply through fraud and corruption, while at the same time delivering food that has toxins to help speed us to our grave.
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                              • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:39 pm ET)
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                                You could easily deduce this outcome if you did some research and simply figured out how the banking system works.


                                I have a feeling that most of that "research" will lead me to neo-nazi websites and Alex Jones with none of them explaining absolutely nothing.

                                The regulations are there to create an uneven playing field so that, as an example, parasitic companies like Monsanto can take over ownership of the food supply through fraud and corruption, while at the same time delivering food that has toxins to help speed us to our grave.


                                So your solution is no regulations to even stop them? What Monsanto does is abuse the system. There is corruption, there is no denying. But the solution is definitively not "get rid of government". Do you really think that Monsanto will magically stop their wholly unethical practices if there was no government to even curb them? The solution is not "less" or "smaller" government like you loons think. It's efficient government.
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                                • Author by Clouseau (17 hours and 7 minutes ago)
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                                  If Monsanto can't depend on government and judicial corruption to force farmers into buying their gmo nightmare or else be bankrupted by legal fees - then its game over for monsanto.

                                  This is government induced economic predation.
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                                  • Author by Johaely (16 hours and 43 minutes ago)
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                                    No, what they'll do is either buy off the farm or just use force. If there is no government stopping them from starting a monopoly, do you really think they would not create one? They are already unethical and unscrupulous with government around. Imagine how bad they would be with nothing to reign them back.
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                      • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:22 pm ET)
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                        The wealthiest 1% rargle blargle federal reserve buy gold rargle rargle

                        Ohhh, Clouseau's just a generic Paultard "WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!" type. That certainly explains the violent misogyny.
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                        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:34 pm ET)
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                          The straw man and the ad hominum in only two sentences, with nothing of any substance. Classic.
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                          • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:35 pm ET)
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                            Says the guy who opened with "HURRR HURR FEMINISTS DON'T GET ANY".
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                  • Author by historygeek001 (6 hours and 57 minutes ago)
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                    Closeau, you're more ridiculous a poster than the inspector for whom you picked your handle. If you truly believe the contradictory crap you're spouting then you need serious psychological help.
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                    • Author by congero6189599 (3 hours and 56 minutes ago)
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                      He's a definite student of Glenn Beck U. Go back to bartering? What century do these kooks think we live in? This is not 17th or 18th century. WTF!
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          • Author by highlyunlikely (May 13, 2012 4:31 pm ET)
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            they're always so demanding, but at least they use polite words.
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      • Author by mjh (May 12, 2012 2:21 pm ET)
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        Q. What does a feminist use as a contraceptive?
        A. Her personality.


        Q: What does Clouseau use as a contraceptive?
        A: It's face.

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      • Author by phlcstgan (May 12, 2012 11:35 pm ET)
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        Q. Why do wingnut trolls hate women?
        A. Because most of them are deeply closeted homosexuals.
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        • Author by highlyunlikely (May 13, 2012 12:39 am ET)
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          scared sheeetless of them would be more accurate. Then again, it's not much of a punchline.
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        • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 3:13 pm ET)
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          Q. Why do wingnut trolls hate women?


          A: They're jealous, due to the fact most of them were hatched, not born . . .

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    • Author by Scooter19 (May 12, 2012 4:20 pm ET)
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      TURN OFF FOX NEWS


      BAD NEWS FOR AMERICA

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    • Author by historygeek001 (May 13, 2012 10:20 am ET)
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      I will never understand why there are female Republicans. They have no respect for women at all.
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    • Author by drewrob5150 (May 13, 2012 11:30 am ET)
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      Lighten up KNUCKLEHEADS, it's a joke...!
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    • Author by ajmilner402 (May 13, 2012 11:59 am ET)
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      Greg Gutfeld: Proof that some of us weren't bullied ENOUGH in school.
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    • Author by yoiksaway (May 13, 2012 12:23 pm ET)
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      If Gutfeld behaves one way in studio and has to behave as a completely different person at any other location on the planet, that tells you something.
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    • Author by DinoFett (May 13, 2012 1:10 pm ET)
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      Too bad that you can't understand that this is taken out of context. Was he being a little facetious? Yes. You have very little understanding what hate is and you show your ignorance every time you open your mouths and let your own hate flow like water out of a spigot. You really miss the big point. Women are wonderful beings and groups like NOW have distorted this wonderful side. Greg understands the wonders of motherhood, do you?
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      • Author by mjh (3 hours and 23 minutes ago)
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        "Too bad that you can't understand that this is taken out of context."


        The rightwingnut standard fallback:

        quoting verbatim = "taken out of context"


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    • Author by eudoxa (May 13, 2012 1:19 pm ET)
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      "Greg Segments" never fail to evoke in me the memory of the old Jerry Seinfeld routine that ends: "...not that there's anything wrong with that". Wherefore all the overcompensation, Greg? Wherefore the bravado?
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    • Author by j238 (May 13, 2012 2:19 pm ET)
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      I remember there were some annoying feminists making lots of noise in the 70's and 80's.

      Is that type still around? I'm afraid that joke is really out-of-date.
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    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 9:09 pm ET)
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      I ask again: if the market place is severely underpricing women's labor, then why don't women entrepreneurs form businesses whereby they hire primarily women and just out-compete and drive out of business male owned and male employing competitors who are overpaying for the same work? Why does the state have to have loan subsidies, grants, favorable contract bidding, etc. just to keep such entities afloat?

      Is there anyone here brave enough to take this on?
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      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 9:15 pm ET)
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        Because life ain't as magically easy as those stupid Ayn Rand books make it seem. Women, specially when they spent centuries being discouraged from even living on their own, will not magically start business without any experience or money.

        And even if they could, driving down wages should not be encouraged. You seem to see it as if employers should have the right to cheapen labor instead of paying their employees relative to their work. For someone who acts all paranoid about the "elite", you surely seem to encouraging creating one.
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        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:17 pm ET)
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          You need to think about how the negotiation for labor cost actually works in the real world. Employers don't care about sex or the color of skin - not the smart ones. The stupid ones are already out of business. Women's wages as a group lag men's because as a group women are not as productive as men. On average they are not as strong, and on average they are not as smart. This has nothing to do with individuals - with you or me. Everyone is different. But you cannot deny that most of the scientific and engineering advances since the beginning of historical record keeping have been accomplished mostly by men. Go into any silicon valley company and count the number of male and female engineers. Those people don't care how many vaginas or penises you have, how dark your skin is, whether you pray on a rug at noon, or whether yours eyes are slightly narrower. I'm just telling you how it is. The disparity in wages is because science and engineering is where the us still produces stuff other people around the world want, where all the real growth is coming from, and its mostly a male dominated sector.

          And if you don't like it, and want to do something about it, then get off your lazy ass and get an engineering degree.
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          • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:27 pm ET)
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            The stupid ones are already out of business.

            You're adorable.
            Women's wages as a group lag men's because as a group women are not as productive as men. On average they are not as strong, and on average they are not as smart.

            Whoops, no, never mind, you're just an @$$hole.
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            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:45 pm ET)
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              Argumentum ad hominum. Its a specific type of irrational argument. Google it and learn to be rational.
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              • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:47 pm ET)
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                It's ad hominem, idiot. You yourself engaged in it in your declarations against "equal pay for equal work" and feminism.
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              • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 10:56 pm ET)
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                "Google it and learn to be rational." -- Pinky


                . . . says the one who said:

                "equal pay for equal work is a communist concept"

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              • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 11:09 pm ET)
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                Once again, little boy, you opened with an ad hominem. You don't get to suddenly object to them because one is directed at you.
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                • Author by Clouseau (17 hours and 3 minutes ago)
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                  I may throw in a bit here and there by mistake - but never do I rest the basis of my argument on it.
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                  • Author by Johaely (16 hours and 34 minutes ago)
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                    I'm sorry but declaring feminists are ugly and that "equal work for equal pay" is communist and government is evil is not an accident.
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                  • Author by phlcstgan (10 hours and 53 seconds ago)
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                    No, you'd rather rest the basis of your argument on made-up scenarios.
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          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:31 pm ET)
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            Employers don't care about sex or the color of skin - not the smart ones.


            To deny that there are any kind of discriminatory or social factors in how people employ is completely ignorant and naive. Do you really think that things like Jim Crow or

            On average they are not as strong, and on average they are not as smart.


            While the difference in physical strength for men and women is well recorded, do you have nay proof for the difference in intelligence. Proof that states that its an innate factor and not say, discrimination or bias?

            But you cannot deny that most of the scientific and engineering advances since the beginning of historical record keeping have been accomplished mostly by men.


            Women also weren't allowed to go to college (which initiated the cycle). Does that mean women are naturally less intelligent than men?

            And if you don't like it, and want to do something about it, then get off your lazy ass and get an engineering degree.


            Why should i? Why should our economy focus on such a small sector?
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            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:39 pm ET)
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              Its the dominant sector that is the underlying engine that runs every other sector. But if you are too lazy or lack the intellect, then no - become a lawyer.
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              • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:42 pm ET)
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                What if i don't want to become either? It's not an issue of intellect or motivation? Why would i want to be an engineer? I don't feel attracted to it enough so as to turn it into my career much less because some idiot in the internet tells me to.
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                • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 10:49 pm ET)
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                  If you don't want to its perfectly fine. Just don't whine about wage disparity like a spoiled little brat.
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                  • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:56 pm ET)
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                    So i should be ok if people starve because they are doing jobs which are necessary for the running of society of if two people performing the same task are paid significantly different wages?

                    Society does not depend on engineers. This ain't Atlas Shrugged. Get it through your thick skull. Society can live perfectly if all the self serving "objectivists" moved to Galt's Gulch. There will be people ready to take their place. On the other hand, those at Galt's Gulch must realize that now they must perform the tasked that the "parasites" had to work hard in.
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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 11:16 pm ET)
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                      I don't really like rand. She argues as if individuals existed as independent entities. A closer examination of reality will reveal that dependence is the basis of human existence: the earth and the sun are particularly significant, as are your parents.

                      The only reason that everyone is not living a life of abundance free from want is the less than 1% banksters - the super parasites.

                      Think about it, every scientific field has produced stunning and near miraculous advances in the last 100 years ... with one notable and significant exception - the so called "science" of economics.

                      And what are the dominant economic theories being peddled at the institutions of higher learning?
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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 11:32 pm ET)
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                        Economics is not about producing anything. I really don't get you. One second you are all "capitalism" and $#!t. The next you are all "economics has produced anything in the last 100 years". Make up your damn mind.
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                  • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 11:05 pm ET)
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                    "Just don't whine about wage disparity like a spoiled little brat." -- Pinky


                    So, let's recap:

                    According to Pinky

                    - TSA checks = slavery
                    - population control = genocide
                    - wage equality = a communist concept

                    And it tells us not to whine like a spoiled little brat . . .

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                    • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 11:19 pm ET)
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                      You can simplify the above as follows:

                      government coercion = evil

                      qed
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                      • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 11:30 pm ET)
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                        evil = simplistic, intellectually lazy description
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                      • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 11:46 pm ET)
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                        government coercion = evil

                        Unless it's forcing a wand up a woman's vagina, because, y'know, that's what she gets.
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                      • Author by mjh (17 hours and 15 minutes ago)
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                        "You can simplify the above as follows:

                        government coercion = evil

                        qed" -- Pinky


                        Then, for goodness sake, Pinky -- move to Somalia.

                        - no recognized gov't
                        - no nationalized healthcare
                        - no taxes
                        - no regulations
                        - no equal pay

                        It's a libertarian paradise!


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                        • Author by phlcstgan (17 hours and 8 minutes ago)
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                          Unfortunately, none of that is a fair trade for a nation of blah people.
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                  • Author by highlyunlikely (17 hours and 28 minutes ago)
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                    jamesb. or its clone.
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              • Author by phlcstgan (May 13, 2012 10:43 pm ET)
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                Why is it so many people on the internet are such interesting, successful, brilliant people and yet they find trolling liberal sites to be the best use of their time?
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                • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 10:45 pm ET)
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                  Because they are delusional?
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                • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 11:19 pm ET)
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                  "Why is it so many people on the internet are such interesting, successful, brilliant people and yet they find trolling liberal sites to be the best use of their time?"


                  The internet: where every man is rich, handsome, and a stud.

                  And every rightwingnut troll is a military hero, is dating a stripper, and is a genius in the field of economics . . .

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      • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 10:53 pm ET)
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        "I ask again: if the market place is severely underpricing women's labor, then why don't women entrepreneurs form businesses whereby they hire primarily women and just out-compete and drive out of business male owned and male employing competitors who are overpaying for the same work?" -- Pinky


        Gotta love rightwingnut libertarian thought.

        They think a group discriminated against by not being paid the same wages for performing the same work, will just be able to MAGICALLY form their own business and compete equally in the marketplace . . .

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        • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 11:02 pm ET)
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          There is no magic involved. Get an engineering or science degree, invent a ground breaking technology - then go and hire all women engineers and scientists with your new riches if you can find them (good luck with that).

          There is absolutely no magic involved - other than finding the female engineers and scientists.
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          • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 11:10 pm ET)
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            Despite what Ayn Rand thought you, human society does not revolve around engineering.
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            • Author by Clouseau (May 13, 2012 11:23 pm ET)
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              No - but engineers make the stuff you want.
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              • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 11:29 pm ET)
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                Life is not all abou wants. There are needs. If I broke my leg, i would go to a doctor not an engineer. If my house caught fire, i would call a firefighter, not an engineer. There is interdependence but not all the credit falls to one person.
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              • Author by Johaely (May 13, 2012 11:29 pm ET)
                   
                Life is not all abou wants. There are needs. If I broke my leg, i would go to a doctor not an engineer. If my house caught fire, i would call a firefighter, not an engineer. There is interdependence but not all the credit falls to one person.
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                • Author by Clouseau (16 hours and 45 minutes ago)
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                  The doctor is an engineer. They just have different titles. They fix broken biological stuff. In order to do that, they must understand the science of biology, bioengineering, chemistry, medical physics, electro magnetics ...

                  Your house would not catch on fire if constructed by fire proof material (cinder blocks and clay shingled roof for example).
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            • Author by mjh (May 13, 2012 11:25 pm ET)
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              I'd like to know if Ayn Rand told him how women are supposed to AFFORD engineering or science degrees on the lower pay he says they're entitled to . . .

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              • Author by mary59 (May 13, 2012 11:47 pm ET)
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                Inspector Clueless is probably another iteration of Mookie the Zipper. The same reasoning ability: that of a college student after several jugs of Gallo.
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              • Author by Clouseau (16 hours and 58 minutes ago)
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                They seem to be able to afford a lot of other degrees with little to no prospects of future employment. How is that possible?
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                • Author by Johaely (16 hours and 46 minutes ago)
                     
                  And who says an engineering degree is a ticket to employment?
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                  • Author by Clouseau (16 hours and 43 minutes ago)
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                    If you can figure out how stuff works, and how to make it - well - you can make stuff! Its not that hard a concept.
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      • Author by bintx (8 hours ago)
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        Women aren't as likely to be approved for loans.

        Not an intelligent or informed person, are you?
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    • Author by bintx (8 hours and 45 seconds ago)
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      Most "feminists" I know are not angry. They are very pleasant, caring women who have wonderful, well-adjusted children.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (5 hours and 4 minutes ago)
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      I feel so ashamed...

      ...I actually chuckled a bit at this.

      Of course that doesn't mean that it has any place in SERIOUS POLITICAL COMMENTARY, but since when did Fox have any place for THAT?!

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