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[edit] Shithawk
Could one of you all add an item to the "Other Uses" section of the article Shithawk about the the Trailer Park Boys bit? The cruel landlord frightens a child-like man that if he doesn't behave properly the shithawks will get him. This is well known in Canada, where the show is quite popular. I'd do it myself but I don't know how to word or cite it but thought that someone here would be able to do it easily. Thanks! Chrisrus (talk) 02:47, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- I will not, personally, as I consider such pop-culture pieces of trivia detrimental to articles. Resolute 15:22, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
- It's a new usage. It's the Shithawk as boogieman. It's another thing that the word refers to, other than the cursed bird. It's what "Shithawk" means in some quarters. See here: Shithawks will get you! and Shithawks aren't real! Chrisrus (talk) 16:29, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
- I've never heard it. Maybe it's some local idiom, but I wouldn't include it. PKT(alk) 14:26, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Do you know how many shit-somethings we'd have to set up for this show? Shit storm, shit weasel, shit hawk, shit winds, should I go on? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 14:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- If all those terms had articles, their usages in the show might be added. None of them do, so don't worry about that; it doesn't matter. Chrisrus (talk) 15:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Please read our guideline on WP:POPCULTURE. The key, as always, is the presence of real reliable sources that can demonstrate the significance of the mention (and not just the existence of it.)
- Wikipedia has an ongoing problem with a lot of people adding exhaustive lists to articles of each and every time the topic in question gets mentioned in a single line of dialogue in a TV show or movie or in a song lyric or whatever — but such content is rarely, if ever, supported by sufficient sourcing to demonstrate that it's actually important enough to be noted as a genuinely encyclopedic aspect of the topic and not just random trivia.
- Long story short, if you can provide real reliable sources (newspaper or magazine articles, etc.) about the TPB usage of "shithawk" expanding into general usage, then it could potentially warrant mention in the article — but if all you can offer is YouTube clips from the show which depict the character himself using it, then that simply doesn't cut it in an encyclopedia. Bearcat (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
FYI Talk:Missy Franklin is currently discussing issues concerning people with dual citizenships, in this case, Canada and USA -- 70.50.151.36 (talk) 08:04, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Updates to GCpedia page
Following Wikipedia recommended protocol, I put suggested changes to the GCpedia page in the talk page. It has been about a month and has not seemed to be noticed. How can I ensure that it gets reviewed by editors? Joymosk (talk) 14:24, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Brampton-Mississauga Credit River Park murder?
Do we have an article on the Toronto-area bodyparts murder? -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 11:41, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- No, there isn't enough known about the situation to warrant an article yet. If anything, an article would belong in WikiNews based on what is known so far. PKT(alk) 12:34, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem like anyone writes for Wikinews. Big events seem to not get coverage there. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 13:07, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- An article is completely unnecessary. Intoronto1125TalkContributions 14:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. Sometimes a murder is just a murder and does not warrant encyclopedic coverage. As far as Wikinews goes, it's always been a wasteland, and little more than a drain on Wikimedia's resources. Resolute 23:44, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Trizec Corporation and Properties
There are two companies named Trizec, Trizec Corporation and Trizec Properties:
Trizec Corporation is clearly Canadian. Trizec Properties might have Canadian roots, or some historical connection to Trizec Corporation, I don't know. If you search wikipedia for Trizec you'll see there a few dozen mentions of these two Trizecs. I think members of this wikiproject are probably best equipped to judge just how notable Trizec was/is, and I hope one or more of you choose to create an article or two article about them. Thanks in advance. 67.100.127.174 (talk) 10:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] Continuing the copyright topic
After reading the above topic about copyright, I am now thinking that the copyright status of any material doesn't matter, since it is being uploaded to Wikipedia, an American website, that effectively puts the material outside of the copyright coverage. Does this mean we can upload anything from Canadian government website, despite their having Crown copyright, since CC does not apply to the United States? This is an issue that has been bothering me, for years, because it just seems like a huge, immovable barrier. Is there ANY way that material, such as pictures, could be used on Wikipedia without any problems? NorthernThunder (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- No, because anything published in the United States is automatically copyrighted, regardless of where it was created. The US may not recognize Crown Copyright, but it would recognize the Canadian government as the owner of the material, and therefore they, not we, would own the copyright under American laws. Also, Wikipedia only considers images that are under a compatible license in both the United States AND the country of origin to be "free". See also the Uruguay Round Agreements Act, which is a giant pain in the ass. Basically, while any Canadian photograph created before January 1, 1949, is public domain in Canada, only images created before January 1, 1946 are also in the PD in the United States (as I just came to realize in a FAC). Crown Copyright would be the exception, because if the federal government explicitly states that all images are considered PD worldwide when the Crown Copyright expires, those works would thus become PD in the United States as well. Resolute 23:42, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed on that last point. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 04:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- The Canadian government needs to abolish Crown copyright. It is my understanding that they don't make much of a profit from that anyways and it does get in the way of open government. NorthernThunder (talk) 07:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- (Still waiting on a response by the way) I hound them quite regularly about it. They completely avoid referencing it or answering it. "As I asked, why is the government spending my tax money to enforce copyright on materials produced with my tax money, in many cases against Canadian citizens who have already paid the cost of producing the item through their taxes? This material belongs to the public that paid for it to be produced, not "her majesty", not "the crown"."
- Unfortunately I think only one thing would solve this: Finding an MP who is a big history buff and convincing them to try and get something done from the legislative side of things. - Floydian τ ¢ 10:48, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for the update, Floydian, and for pursuing this. I agree that it would be great if all materials produced by the federal government were public domain (as in the U.S.), but that is unlikely to happen. What department are you emailing, Floydian? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:57, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- The address I'm currently waiting for a response from is droitdauteur.copyright@tpsgc-pwsgc.gc.ca, which is the Crown Copyright and Licensing office of the Public Works and Government Services department. - Floydian τ ¢ 16:04, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
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- You appear to be emailing the right department. Damn. Maybe a more formal request, on Wikimedia Canada letterhead, might prompt a more thoughtful response from them? I think it's worth pursuing if everyone agrees. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 20:47, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
- I notice that Russia and the UK have agreements with Wikimedia... I wonder if anything can be dug up on how those governments were approached? - Floydian τ ¢ 14:55, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- What kind of agreements? --Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
- In the case of Russia, it allows anything uploaded to the president's website to be used. Template:Kremlin.ru
- In the case of Britain, it makes it verbatim that crown copyright expires worldwide to PD. - Floydian τ ¢ 20:54, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] SK Legislative Assemblies
I have found that there are articles for each of the 27 Saskatchewan Legislative Assemblies to date, except for 20th Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan and 21st Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan. When they are created, please start their respective talk pages with the WikiProject Canada banner as used for the other articles in the series.
I have posted a similar note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Saskatchewan. PKT(alk) 15:49, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit] File:Toronto k538.jpg
File:Toronto k538.jpg has been listed for immediate deletion as being unsourced. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 03:57, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Жастин Бибер and Джастин Бибер. Since you had some involvement with the Justin Bieber redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). 76.65.128.252 (talk) 04:57, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
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