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• • FBALowe

    Jul 24th 2012, 7:40

    Lovely work, sir!!! Good to see such an informed, from-the-heart appreciation - in contrast to all the joyless nit-picky features (Slashfilm etc).

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  • Gemma2712

    Jul 24th 2012, 9:28

    Amazing list. Makes me want to watch the film all over again!

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  • MasterBruce

    Jul 24th 2012, 9:33

    I hate to be joyless and nit-picky but it was actually the cop that said "Oh boy, you are in for a show tonight, son." that said "Are you sure you have the right animal, sir?". John Blake wasn't nearly as cocky, otherwise we would have hated him as much as we hated Jason Todd. Thankfully, Nolan made us love Robin.

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  • barneystinson

    Jul 24th 2012, 9:36

    finally someone who gets that John Blake is Robin throughout the film and is not going to become Robin at the end...I have to admit I didn't get the "lovely, lovely voice" double meaning before so thanks for that! Great list....

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  • LukeSween

    Jul 24th 2012, 9:49

    Great list but one of my favourite moments was glossed over. During Bane and Batmans final fight, it is when Banes mask is damanged and his ultra violent fighting that following reminded me of a wounded animal.

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  • MasterBruce

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:08

    Yeah I also loved that fight. Especially that it took place in a crowd in broad daylight and it was snowing. it's amazing how much brighter the films get as they go on from the uber dark Batman Begins.

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  • DarrenBr00ks

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:17

    It warms the cockles that you guys appreciate what a great film it is. The Dark Knight is truly a masterpiece, technically perfect in almost every way. TDKR could never match that technical perfection and so by going the other way of having such emotionally resonance shows what a master CN really is. Its still technically superior to most films and its really is my favourite of the trilogy by a mile. Thank you to all involved. PS One of favourite moments was when Selina Kyle comes back and kills Bane. The pay off line is very funny. And of course he's still alive. Nolan has said definitely no more Batman films..... but said nothing about a Robin film with a Batman cameo!

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  • LukeSween

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:27

    Did anyone else think that with the way this ended and with Nolans overseeing of Man of Steel, that Justice League might have his involvement too. A long shot I know but we can live in hope.

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  • unclejago

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:34

    The Quote is not from War and Peace (which was written by Tolstoy) it's from A Tale of Two Cities.

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  • sashurst

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:48

    Thanks @unclejago, amended now. I have no idea how I made that mistake, considering how much A Tale Of Two Cities influenced the film! And thanks to all for your kind words, this one definitely came from the heart.

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  • Gypsyboy316

    Jul 24th 2012, 10:48

    Iv gotta admit that i did leave the film with a sense of dissapointment!!!!! Loved the film but i didn't have the same feeling as i did after The Dark Knight!!!! There was some great bits in the film and i'm hoping that when i see it again. I did like the bit where Bane broke that The Bat!!!

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  • Heisenberg

    Jul 24th 2012, 11:12

    Am i the only one who loved the "giant alligator" quote then? Clearly the reference to Killer Croc

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  • irfanhakda

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:13

    MasterBruceJul - It actually was John Blake who asked Foley "if he had the right animal"

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  • JayB1

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:14

    Great list- love to find someone with the same enthusiasm for such a marvelous film series I totally agree with your point in 26- Bane's tears. So powerful Personally I'd have had it higher- but you did a great job Thanks!!!

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  • FBBJerri

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:20

    Like TDKR, this piece is art. Thanks, I am glad there are some who absorbed this film the way I did. Awaiting my second viewing with BATed breath.

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  • aberis

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:48

    Re: "Breaking The Bat" - I think I may have actually punched the air with joy at this scene. Not for any dislike for the Bat, but as you say is Bane's most iconic contribution to the Batman story, I personally would say the image from 20 years ago of Bane breaking Batman's back is the most striking, iconic and at the time unexpected image in Batman's history.

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  • FBKMcDuffie

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:54

    I cannot believe you attributed that quote to Tolstoy, the Russian author who did not pen "The Tale of Two Cities." It is most absolutely from Charles Dickens. Come on, Total Film check your facts.

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  • Gethin23

    Jul 24th 2012, 12:57

    @Heisenberg Glad someone else noticed that too! I had the same feeling when in The Dark Knight, Batman asked about the new armour and Lucius Fox responded by saying "We talking Rottweilers or Chihuahuas? Should do fine against cats". Only thing I was disappointed with was the fact that Talia should've been a lot more badass. She's been the leader of the League of Assassins and she's a master martial artist in the comics; and in the film she managed to climb out of the prison first time as a child when a grown man tried more than once. Would've liked to see her kick someone's a*s.

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  • nabby81

    Jul 24th 2012, 13:08

    Regarding the ending , they was a brief comment about the Pearl Necklace (which we are told right at the beginning has a tracking device ) being missing from the estate.In the scene with Alfred at the end Selina has the necklace on ..thats how I like to think Alfred knew where to be and at the right time..and that Bruce deliberately left the little breadcrumb for him to follow

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  • FBSDeMorgan

    Jul 24th 2012, 13:25

    Great job. Makes me want to watch it all over again (as if I didn't anyway!).

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  • Agent69

    Jul 24th 2012, 13:59

    Enough with Nolan already.

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  • linwoodriley

    Jul 24th 2012, 14:04

    after watching again for the third time Sunday.... couldn't have written it any better.... and here I thought nobody had as much joy watching this film as I.... and I thought it was Perfect. and yeah, at 43... no. 4 made me sob like a 12 year old girl.

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  • Kymethra

    Jul 24th 2012, 14:44

    ...still says Tolstoy.

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  • nkutzler

    Jul 24th 2012, 14:57

    Scarecrow's court is not actually my favorite event from the movie, but that might be my favorite fan service. For TDK, reports said Cillian Murphy was back shooting a drug deal scene, and that was cool. Then, watching the films again, I said to my friend, "well, I hope Murphy returns for the next one." and I couldn't be more pleasantly surprised. That and the police's fight back hinted at a strong "No Man's Land" arc that truly came to fruition when Gordon said, "this is a problem that can only be fixed from the inside!" I wish that moment was given more time in the movie, Gordon was almost picked over. Of course, I appreciated that he got to save the day in a more satisfying way than in Begins.

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  • Heisenberg

    Jul 24th 2012, 15:06

    The one question i still have is, and granted i may feel like a noob for not getting this, but why were the inmates of The Pit clearly trying to stop Talia from escaping, when Bane had to fend them off her? They didn't attack Wayne when he was there even though they were instructed to keep him there in "Bane's Pit", so why the attack on a young girl? Answers on a postcard please...

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  • Kellend11

    Jul 24th 2012, 15:09

    Sorry to be a nitpicker - but you've stated on #27 that TDKR theme was hope. I have read that Nolan said the theme was pain?

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  • mattburgess

    Jul 24th 2012, 15:35

    @Heisenberg - they weren't trying to prevent her escape just for the sake of it, they wanted to do to her what they did to her mother - attack her for sexual gratification..

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  • sashurst

    Jul 24th 2012, 15:39

    @Kellend11 No problem, an interviewer actually put it to him that the theme was pain, and Nolan replied: "Yeah, in a way." So, he hasn't actually stated a theme - though pain is certainly in there - I like to think the film has a more positive implication. Totally open to interpretation though! @FBKMcDuffie & @Kymethra Amended - I should spend less time watching films and a bit more time reading books! Thanks for the save. And to everyone else, thanks again for all the lovely words. It's a joy to read all of your reactions to the film.

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  • Heisenberg

    Jul 24th 2012, 15:43

    @Matt, good man i was thinking that but i wasn't that sure about it, and then i thought there was some big meaning to her staying there, obviously overthinking it, but thanks for affirming that for me :-)

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  • Ali1748

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:04

    My favorite moment was definitely Bane kicking Batman's a*s.

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  • nkutzler

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:26

    @ Heisenberg, I'd like to repost your question, because some parts of the exposition escape me. I think it was hard to hear regular talking in an Imax theater, or something. But as I see it, these times in the pit are dramatically different. The league comes back to kill everyone who was in the pit- at this point, has it been abandoned? Was it still used for the same purpose, or for Bane's / the League's personal prison? Because if Bane threw everyone in there, and Wayne seemed to be the only one capable of escaping (despite his back, leg... I wonder why the man would would go through so much trouble to help him) then I guess those inmates would all hold resentment and try to escape the prison. If it were reused as a prison- you know, one where they almost condone escape, then I feel like that's different. Maybe Nolan should have included some of the offences of the other prisoners. That could clear it up for me- if they're more "people Bane encounters and wants to punish", then their form of uprising would make more sense. If they're all killer and rapists like Blackgate or something, then why exactly are the chanting eachother on?

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  • nkutzler

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:27

    @Kellend, agreed. But I guess the pain wrought on Gotham had to be resolved with hope from it's citizens.

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  • currylee

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:31

    No mention of Holly Robinson reference?

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  • Jeffbiscuits

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:38

    Great feature, Sam. It's good to see someone getting past the recent unfortunate news and writing something heartfelt about a film you've clearly taken to heart. If all features were this good there would be no need for comments.

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  • Ali1748

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:44

    The Plane Heist was very cool, that whole scene had my jaw on the floor. The Croc reference was a nice touch, I smiled after hearing it.

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  • Hadouken76

    Jul 24th 2012, 16:48

    Dickens? Nah mate, thats Star Trek 2 : Wrath of Kahn :D

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  • SiMan

    Jul 24th 2012, 18:46

    Okay Total Film, in your review you guys even said it's not as good as The Dark Knight, so, bearing that in mind do you not feel slightly underwhelmed with the fact that this final Batman film from Nolan, the closing part of a big, summer tent-pole movie, was not as spectacular as its predecessor? I for one felt dissappointed. Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent film - it just wasn't the final installment i wanted it to be. Do we not have the right to ask of Nolan (who's given us such brilliant films in the past) to at least equal what has come before in his closing Batman film? The main problem i have with the whole tone of the film was that i get the impression (and i'm sure i've read somewhere) that Nolan had the ending planned from the outset. That means his entire film was built towards reaching that goal. Now, i'm not saying that is not the way you should do this - in fact, i bet a lot of movies are made in this way, its just that i think for this particular film and to match Begins and TDK the ending was not good enough. Again, in film-making terms it's quite brilliant (if a litte obvious after Alfred flashback when he first tells Bruce about the cafe) - But as an ending to this triliogy, i'm sorry to say i didn't like it. I was expecting Wayne to 'Rise' above the need to sacrifice the Batman and was looking forward to seeing how Nolan would do it. But alas, he did not. He also made it quite difficult for anyone else to continue the franchise after him.

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  • MoodyMonkey

    Jul 24th 2012, 21:21

    For me this trilogy is perfect though i respect it may not be for others... good article Sam! Personally its the one end of a journey that started in 1989 and i have no complaint with the ending. thinking about it makes me very emotional. no trilogy has afected me this way since the 'Original Trilogy'. Peace out Mofos..!

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  • StevePotter

    Jul 24th 2012, 21:34

    Hate to be a buzzkill, but Lucius clearly interacted with Batman during the climax of "The Dark Knight." Batman showed him the sonar and then Lucius told him how to fight the Joker.

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  • sashurst

    Jul 24th 2012, 22:25

    @StevePotter Oh, I know they've met before, but this is the first time Bruce has been so open about being Batman to Fox. Previously it's been hinted at, here he practically puts on the costume in front of him!

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  • sashurst

    Jul 24th 2012, 22:26

    Thanks @Jeffbiscuits, that's a lovely thing to say.

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  • gabrielrincon

    Jul 24th 2012, 23:30

    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, but in the film she's (Selina) is never referred to as Catwoman. She's just Selina Kyle. Isn't that important?

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  • Hadouken76

    Jul 24th 2012, 23:44

    I wanted Luthor Corp to take over Wayne Industries..wishful thinking

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  • gabrielrincon

    Jul 25th 2012, 0:04

    I can't believe you didn't mention that before Bane broke Batman's back he said "Ah, I was wondering what would break first. Your spirit or your body". Chilling

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  • StevePotter

    Jul 25th 2012, 1:56

    @sashurst- Ah. This is a really great list, though.

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  • 2Dglasses

    Jul 25th 2012, 7:49

    @gabrielrincon, i understand Bale didnt want any other 'superheroes' in a Batman film...hence Blake didnt appear as Robin-super sidekickwise anyway. That probably meant he didnt want it to be a 'Catwoman vs Batman' affair. She clearly IS catwoman, and is referred to as 'cat-like', and her masks/outfit often make her appear as a cat, with pointy ears etc. So she wasnt referred to as catwoman because her character was just passing through this film, she was clearly 'catwoman' at the start and also the end and contributed to this film rather than making it. Ironically if someone did want to carry on the franchise and decided the adventures of Robin was a bit much, i wouldnt mind a backstory on her, i felt her part in the film was a bit vague, sometimes manipuilative/clever, sometimes useless or backstabbing...she just did what the story needed to happen to move it along. wouldnt mind her being centre stage for a bit mroe explanation. Great article.

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  • gonzoBen

    Jul 25th 2012, 9:51

    The Legend Ends. Re-watches and discussion won't. Perfect feature Sam, for a Perfect Trilogy.

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  • mbarn1

    Jul 25th 2012, 10:24

    I know that some people will disagree but i think this is the best trilogy of all time!!! i don't think anything i've ever seen, trilogy wise, even compares to how good these three films are!

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  • redheadfashion

    Jul 25th 2012, 10:57

    Excellent list - 50 reasons why this film needs as many Oscar nominations as it could possibly be offered. And Nolan needs Best Director. *SPOILER* I'd argue back to people who think the Selina we see in the cafe at the end is a construction because she's out of Catwoman black implies she's left Catwoman behind as much as Bruce has left Batman.

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  • redheadfashion

    Jul 25th 2012, 10:59

    *SPOILER* Though I wonder where Bane's demise fits on this list...it did seem completely glossed over and truth be told I'd actually forgotten he did until someone reminded me. Is this manner of HIS demise symbolic? I'll bet.

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  • ash333

    Jul 25th 2012, 11:06

    Saw it last night. Why don't we all just admit that Dark Knight Rises is not in anyway a 5 star movie? Strip away the production values and you're left with a 3 star film.. I'm sorry but really what we have here is a movie that fell short of the first two in every single way.. Story, character introduction, dialogue, set pieces, the bat suit and let's not forget the fighting.. Bane v's Batman should have been fu*king awesome but rather than use the Krav Maga combat style favoured by Batman and the fight choreographers previously it's just a load of big swinging haymakers and a few very tame head butts which I guess was to get the 12A certificate the producers so desperately wanted.. Rubbish!! Then there's the rushed and unbelievable love story, the weird prison which because of the extras reminded me of Christopher Lambert's Fortress, the s****y fake-out twist where we're supposed to believe that Bane is Ras al Ghul's son, the ever present danger that someone may decide to spin-off on the intensely aggravating Joseph Gordon-Levitt's 'Robin' and finally that Bane sounds exactly, exactly like Evil Robot Santa from Futurama. Sorry again but Total Film's review even came across as a little desperate... This is simply not a 5 star film and I think deep down we all know that.

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  • gonzoBen

    Jul 25th 2012, 13:15

    ^ You've escaped from Arkham ;-)

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  • mbarn1

    Jul 25th 2012, 16:01

    I really don't like when people say well "if you take this or that out of the film its only an okay film"..... its like saying well if you take the joker out of the dark knight its not a very good film!! its a ridiculous point all those things that are in the film is what makes it excellent

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  • Jeffbiscuits

    Jul 25th 2012, 16:10

    I think tdk drags at points when Heat Ledger isn't blowing stuff up and causing mayhem. Without his portrayal of the Joker the film wouldn't have been half as good.

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  • mbarn1

    Jul 25th 2012, 16:36

    if you take batman out of the dark knight its only an okay film.

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  • Hadouken76

    Jul 25th 2012, 17:22

    Some of the fight scenes reminded me of Arkham City. I kept wanting to pause the screen and change my weapon!

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  • mattburgess

    Jul 25th 2012, 20:21

    @ash333 - Firstly, please don't be so incredibly presumptuous as to tell me what I thought of a film, or even *think* you can use a phrase like "deep down we all know that", when you're clearly adding to a plethora of posts from people who loved the film. Secondly, your argument is greatly lessened by the fact that you thought the plot twist was that Bane is Ra's Al Ghul's son, which shows how much you weren't even paying attention to some of the key moments in the film, because he's not.

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  • mattburgess

    Jul 25th 2012, 20:23

    Having said that, I agree that I didn't think the fights were up to scratch, but I still think its a five-star film :-)

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  • Playhouse

    Jul 26th 2012, 0:05

    Absolutely love the appreciation for the movie. Seeing so much negativity being expressed about it online, so much questioning and nitpicking. Thought it was, by far, the most fun of the three films. 'TDK' is more consistent, but 'TDKR' best moments were best of the trilogy. And, as the article points out, there were so many good small and big things throughout. One note: They actually do name Daggett by his first name "John" about three or four times in the film. Alfred calls him John in the scene just after Blake leaves Wayne Manor the first time. Blake also calls him John when he comes to tell Gordon they've found his body and he has evidence of his construction crews being deployed around the city. There's a couple more instances, as well.

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  • aucarter

    Jul 26th 2012, 3:15

    Thoroughly enjoyed the film and these 50 points! This is one Trilogy where I feel completely satisfied with all 3 films.

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  • agentsammo101

    Jul 26th 2012, 11:46

    Saw this at the weekend on IMAX (best film format ever) will go see it again, and have already placed this on my xmas list. I see one problem with this film, WB will struggle to reboot batman again, not only for the 3rd time, but because this was soo good, that no ones wants a different batman, they can how ever go down the robin root and everything that he becomes in the comics when batman died, stepped down, retired and keep it in this version of the universe. More over to the point is WB we decide when the superman reboots hits town, this will be the most important film WB have done since BB, will it send the dc real world universe into the unreal fantasy worlds of the comic? alas so that they can launch the justice league movie and start building to that?, or will this be separate series of films with a casual mention of gotham city and the tales of the bat or the robin depending on when this film is set (it could be years after TDKR. If this is a separate series of films then WB will have to divide batman and superman away from the justice league and go on the rest of the crew who make it up, like the flash and wonder women and before people say green lantern (think of GL as their version of the hulk) works well in comics and animated shows, but useless on film, unless part of a team. By doing it this way they could simple drop in batman and supes without having to stand alone films for them, without explain and origins and such and could keep the real world versions of them as stand alone that has nothing to do with the justice league. How could they explain a man who is superfast without being superman in the real world, or a man who lives under water and rides on a seahorse or a women with an invisible rope. Fav bat moment in the film is when the bat swoops down and hits them an emp and fox quips up......

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  • Hadouken76

    Jul 26th 2012, 16:42

    The best bit is where that bloke says something to other guy and he's not having it! Classic.

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  • IHATESNAKES2896

    Jul 26th 2012, 20:50

    This is an excellent feature-I watched the film for a second time today (after an IMAX viewing you never go back to standard film. But I did for this film) and was thinking about several of these moments as I did, but thinking of the others in there. Like when Bane talks to Bruce Wayne in the prison. Or John Blake arrests and talks to Selina Kyle. Or Bruce meets Selina Kyle at the charity event and they trade barbs (loved that moment). Or Bruce goes to Selina's place and as he leaves, she says "I'm sorry they took all your money" and he replies "No you're not In regard to #30 I'd like to point out that Alfred DOES call him John Dagget in conversation to Bruce after John Blake leaves the Wayne Manor. Personally I loved this film as much as MOST people seemed to-it is the best film I have seen thus far this year, and certainly it deserves plenty of Oscar nominations (if anything, it should win Bet Cinematography and Bets Director) and all the actors are on top form-my tips for Oscar noms would be Bale, Caine, Gordon-Levitt, Hathaway and Oldman. Any other film, I'd probably be able to respect a person's opinion about it, even if it was negative. but this is too great. ISo when people talk of plot holes, and I ask what, it may just be that I am ignorant that I could not spot them. Or that I love films too much to care about picking over details. Expecially this one.

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  • MoodyMonkey

    Jul 26th 2012, 22:07

    @IHATESNAKES2896, Sincerely - sing it brother!! I can't approach this film rationally either. thank f**k i dont have to review it for a living!

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  • Elbee80

    Jul 26th 2012, 23:26

    Thank you for further prooving how overrated this film has become. I would now like to see a 'top 50 reasons for why TDK was better TDKR' list

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  • FBGKennelly

    Jul 27th 2012, 8:16

    watch it again http://www.putlocker.ch/file/e770178021ed55a32df92cfde8051674/

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  • FBGKennelly

    Jul 27th 2012, 8:17

    http://www.putlocker.ch/file/e770178021ed55a32df92cfde8051674/

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  • Chufferstud

    Jul 27th 2012, 12:29

    Finally getting to see it on Sunday at an IMAX, cannot wait. In terms of reboots, I think a Justice League film is the obvious choice and we simply have a Batman that never appears as Bruce Wayne. Looking back at the Nolan films, I feel they are more to do with Wayne than Batman. So a film where you only see the superheros and not their "human" form would work. Personally I would like to see a quality animated version of the Justice League on the big screen.

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  • Heisenberg

    Jul 27th 2012, 15:48

    @Elbee, well i guess as your so against this movie, that you should post the 50 reasons why TDK is better, and not TF, who clearly love TDKR, yeah?? Didn't think so.

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  • SiMan

    Jul 27th 2012, 16:42

    Watched it for a second time yesterday to give it a second chance......still don't rate it. I honestly wanted this to be the best film of all time; maybe that expectation fuelled my dissappointment, i don't know. But i found it boring in parts, too many plot points that didn't make sense (okay, nearly all films have them, but i noticed them more in this) and Batman is hardly in it. In a near 3 hour film The Batman is on screen, in costume for about 40 mins total. I'd like to put forward an opinion that however fantastic Nolan's bat films are regarded as being, in spite of the fact that TDK is an almost flawless master-piece of film-making, i submit that they are not good adaptations of the comics........By which i mean he has changed too much. Yes, i've agreed that Begins and Dark Knight are brilliant and I love them as movies, but as a comic fan i can't help feel disappointed that the general public who won't read a comic/graphic novel, will not have read the same stories that i have that made me love the character of the Batman. I completely understand that its difficult to make a 2 hr movie containing 50 years or so of comic history, but the fact is Nolan has basically taken a character and a theme/story and applied it to the real world and not taken what happens in the comics and put it on screen. If someone had adapted a popular novel in the same way there would be uproar. Okay, things often get changed to make them more cinematic, but generally what happens in a book happens in the film.......or is it just me?

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  • Bradders18

    Jul 27th 2012, 22:19

    In my opinion i did not set my expectations too high for this film even though i was excited to watch it and i feel that it served its purpose after the second and third watch things make more sense and its actually more enjoyable the more times you watch it . im running out of money to watch it a fourth time so i guess i will have to wait til the dvd comes out ahaa :P but as a FILM fan ( i only ever read the Knightfall story arch which i loved , as well as reading half of Killing Joke which i did not enjoy) i would sa its satisfying and i reckon that if i had watched it straight after Begins and Dark Knight i would love it more because it will tie in with these films better

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  • SteveMcc

    Jul 28th 2012, 13:08

    Just got back from seeing it for a 2nd time!! Whilst the IMAX format was truly incredible, I have found that I was not alone in struggling to understand or hear the odd word between characters! But in response to the ending so sorry SPOILER!!!!!! I noticed that when they read out Bruce's Will, they note the fact that his Mother's pearls are missing....the ones that Selena were so fond off and she was wearing in the final scene.....Why if it was a hallucination would they include that?

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  • Hishefan

    Jul 29th 2012, 12:24

    Seen it twice now and its pretty good but it doesn't beat the first two apart from the ending which was amazing.

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  • marc96

    Jul 29th 2012, 20:00

    after a week and 2 days I have FINALLY seen this amazing film, one of my favourite moments was alfred at the graves apologising to Bruces parents for not keeping his promise, i could feel myself welling up at that moment..... even though the joker may have been a better enemy for batman than bane tdkr is overall a much more enjoyable film & thought joseph gordon levitt was on typically great form & would gladly watch a spin off with him in..... I've not long got home from seeing it so im still on a high & i imagine i will be for awhile yet.... glad i could finally read this feature as it was hard to have the will power to wait so long, but wasnt disappointed, enjoyed this feature immensly :)

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  • Chufferstud

    Jul 29th 2012, 21:21

    Finally got to see it at the IMAX today and thoroughly enjoyed it. It wasn't flawless, but neither was TDK to be honest. Bane's voice took some time to get used to, but everything was excellent. I think it was lighter in tone to TDK, maybe due to more daylight. I think there is a lot of disappointment due to high expectation, but I went in wanting to be entertained and was totally. Hathaway was amazing and Michael Caine should be a shoe-in for best supporting actor nomination. I can't wait to get the bluray triple boxset!!! Role on Man of Steel and by 2016 I reckon we'll have a Justice League film...

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  • munyabang

    Jul 30th 2012, 1:28

    Whilst I thoroughly enjoyed the story and thought this was the best of the three films from a writing perspective, I stil fell there were too many moments that took me out of the reality of the situation. police officers running lagely untouched into machine gun fire, bruce waynes all-too-easy transformation from cripple to the dark knight using an obscure leg brace device, cat woman burst through the front dors of city hall to save batman when a few seconds earlier it was heavily by bane's gunmen and talia's poorly acted death could all hae been done without. Whilst this may seem nit picky and indeed I myself feel as though im nitpicking these simple errors contributed to the dilution of the sense realism of the story built up in TDK and continued in TDKR with the plane jacking and stock market theft. At times the action felt lazily constructed and the story, brilliant as it was, slightly rushed ( understandable at 2 hours 40 minutes already) I expected more from nolan but congratulate him all the same on a solid end to a magnificent trilogy. Hopefully the director's cut is even better.

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  • Jaye3

    Jul 30th 2012, 3:34

    Thank you for a great and heartfelt assessment of TDKR! I just came back from seeing it for the second time and was curious if anyone else who has seen it more than once had the same thought I had while watching Batman as he was flying the bomb out to sea: The first time I saw the scene, the looks in his eyes made me think he was plucking up the courage to die; the second time, it struck me that maybe he was working up the courage to live. It's clear throughout the movie that Bruce has no fear of dying, but you do get the sense (especially in the scenes with Alfred) that this is as self-destructive as it is brave. Maybe it's a no-brainer for the rest of us to use the auto-pilot, but maybe this was a harder choice to make for someone like Bruce.

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  • anant

    Jul 30th 2012, 4:31

    waited a week, traveled 500kms to see it in imax. loved it! this trilogy means more to me than any other film. i was only 16 when begins released and now i am 23. these films have basically shaped and educated me about how cinema should be. i just dont understand why people compare it with the dark knight? dark knight wasn't like batman begins, i never heard anyone complain about it. no film is without its flaws, yes even dark knight has its flaws (though i am absolutely crazy about the film) and the biggest flaw is that ledger as joker is so extraordinary in the film that whenever he isn't on screen i just want to pull my hair out in impatience....i just want him to blow up things and mouth cool dialogues and just dominate screen with complete badassery, i dont care for bruce or gotham, this is a flaw (one that i love!) one must acknowledge that when a character becomes bigger than the film, it is a flaw. and nolan's biggest boon is also his biggest bane, that ledgers joker is not only bigger than the film, its bigger than the whole trilogy. infact it looms ominously over the modern cinema as the best character ever. nolan and ledger in joker created something immortal, so even though nolan has made an extraordinary film in the dark knight rises, but the problem is it isn't as good as dark knight. nolan will have to struggle with this his entire career, whatever he will make will be 3.5 or 4 star because it isn't as good as dark knight. immortality is a gift, such characters are gods gift to humanity. we have the audacity to rate nolans batman films in stars. where as fact is he has changed the course of cinema and superhero movies, no longer are superhero movies dismissed as kids films. @simon great list mate! made me rant so much about my favorite films! thank you tf and thank you nolan!!

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  • anant

    Jul 30th 2012, 4:32

    @Sam Ashurst sorry about the spelling mistake. thanks anyway!!

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  • Rankles

    Jul 31st 2012, 14:44

    Great article. Is TDKR better than it's predecessor? Who cares? They're both great films in their own right. Yes, there were one or two flaws in the film but the only one I had any issue with is Bane's death. Having him get blown away by Selina Kyle was a big disappointment when it should have ended with Batman destroying Bane's mask and leaving him broken, physically and mentally. Would have been symbolic too with Batman showing he could come back from his defeat while Bane is unable to do so, signifying that he is nothing without the mask. Minor quibble though, it was a great end to the series and

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  • Rankles

    Jul 31st 2012, 15:04

    kudos to Christopher Nolan for making us forget all the c**p that's gone before with this film franchise....

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  • Chufferstud

    Jul 31st 2012, 21:43

    I apologise if I missed it somewhere, but where did Selina get her high tec outfit from? The first time we see it is in Dagget's office, but I can't remember any reference to her getting it. It's too much like Batman's to be coincidence.

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  • jscottu

    Aug 1st 2012, 1:30

    I have seen it four times, now, and I am STILL picking up several new things each time I watch. One thing I still haven't figured out is why the "blood transfusion" from the nuclear scientist (while they are in the airplane). I don't get it??

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  • jscottu

    Aug 1st 2012, 1:42

    Wait a minute...the plane crashes...the investigation finds DNA evidence (blood) in the wreckage...

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  • jscottu

    Aug 1st 2012, 1:44

    I've thought about it alot. Hard to say which is the "best" of the trilogy. But this is one heck of an ending.

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  • Heisenberg

    Aug 2nd 2012, 7:41

    Just watched it again yesterday, and it is definitely better the second time around, you understand the nuances of the way people say things and understand how certain things(Mirandas dialogue especially) can be seen in two lights. I think more of the movie this time aswell, i think its better than what i previously thought. Best. Trilogy. Ever. But if i had one concern, its that Kyle uses the batpod rocket/missles to blow a hole in the cars, she hits Bane with the same thing, shouldnt he have simply exploded as opposed to just being shot 30feet backwards? But still, absolutely loved it. Nolan, Bale et al, we salute you.

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  • timotey

    Aug 6th 2012, 7:13

    Actually, Talia didn't leave Bane to die just to save herself. She didn't expect to survive either. She went chasing after the bomb to safe-guard it so that the "good guys" couldn't stop it. I think that was one of the points of the movie: while the "good guys" went at each other's throat, the "bad guys" did not betray each other. Funny that.

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  • vidoardes

    Aug 6th 2012, 9:16

    Good article, I enjoyed reading it. Was the film better than TDK? No, it wasn't. But it was still a great film. From me, the batpod spoiled it, and took it outside of the gritty realism that I so loved about TDK, but not so much that I didn't love the film. As far as the gripe about Selina killing Bane, while I didn't like the way it happened so quickly and was washed over, Nolan could never have had Batman do it. Every 5 seconds across all three films he makes a point about Batman never killing anyone, and it would have been a really poor ending, especially after what I believe is one of the best 5 scenes in cinema history, where Batman interrogates the Joker in TDK and makes such a huge point of his "one rule". Although I guessed JGL was going to play a Robin-esque sidekick, I think it couldn't have been done any better than it was in the film. The fact he was referred to as Robin at the end of the film was just a bit of fan service, and I don't actually want to see films with him taking up the Batman mantle, I think the way it ended was perfect. And lastly, with regards to whether or not Batman died, I can't believe there is a discussion about it, it is just people desperately clutching at straws, trying to find a twist that isn't there. If Nolan wanted to do an inception on us, he would have done 2 things differently. 1) No Lucius Fox "He fixed the auto-pilot", and the scene with Alfred in Italy wouldn't have had anyone but Alfred in it. He would have sat at the table, looked up with a puzzled look on his face, then scene end. No Bruce, no Selena. Nolan wanted to us to know that Bruce survived, and had moved on from Rachel and Batman and was happy, and the quicker everyone realises that, the quicker we can hope this is possibly one of the best, most rounded trilogy's in cinema history, and by far the best all-round superhero move arc ever made (so far... )

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  • TC0072

    Aug 6th 2012, 12:44

    I can't agree enough about Dark Knight being the high point of the trilogy. The week TDKR came out I went to see a double showing of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, I loved watching Dark Knight just as much as the first time I saw it and I've seen it quite a few times in between. I saw Rises the day it came out and loved it. then saw it two weeks later in an IMAX and without the emotion of the first viewing it felt very flat. I'll definitely get it on Blu Ray and watch it time and time again but it just isn't as good as Dark Knight. I think the main thing is there just aren't enough scenes with Bat Man in it. If you enjoyed this article, and I did, then you should have a listen to director Kevin Smith talking about the film. He does a two parter covering two of his podcasts, one called fatman on batman #8 and the other one called smodcast #218. Hearing him crying and being so emotional about the film is definitely worth listening to, you can't help get excited by his love for these films. Links for those podcasts: http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/fat-man-on-batman-smodcast.com/id532661418 http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/smodcast-smodcast.com/id215010467

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  • ChrisWootton

    Aug 6th 2012, 16:25

    Meh

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  • Samuel2484

    Aug 6th 2012, 17:34

    Great stuff. I loved the character of Robin (Grayson, Todd and Tim) before this film but I was still waiting for a film to put the character in the right kind of light to get him out of that stereotypical campy gay role that everyone seems to see him as. I just loved how cleverly Robin was set up. Technically he was Robin throughout the film, as he says to Bruce "we're always wearing a mask". People can debate as to whether he'll become a new kind of hero like Nightwing, and others have debated whether he'll become the new Batman. It's hard to decide. If he was the new Batman then that would make the statue, everyone thinking he's dead to be like "oh wait, no he's alive...whoops". But then there's that whole thing where Bruce says time and time again; "Anyone can be Batman". However the NEW bat-signal that Gordon sees in the end could either be from Robin/a new hero following Batman's legend, or Bruce Wayne putting it up to say that he's still alive, and that he knows Blake will continue his work...it's hard to say, but I like that we're made to think. Fantastic Film.

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  • NewsHit

    Aug 14th 2012, 7:35

    “This confrontation with Gordon is a turning point for Foley, and the next time we see him, he’s leading a seemingly hopeless charge against Bane’s army – in full police uniform. It's far from buried. It's gleaming. The moment is indicative of Gordon’s power to inspire, and mirrors the franchise’s general theme of the power of good to overwhelm corruption and fear.” Agree to disagree, and – by that – let’s agree that I am right and this is wrong. It was BATMAN who chiefly inspired Modine. He was more than willing to hide in his house … until the Bat symbol was ignited. Whilst I think that Gordon’s speech clearly implanted an idea into Mods (the mention of the uniform), the moment of Modine looking at the Bat symbol was clearly a crystallizing moment for the character, accentuated by the idea that he was surrounded by his family at the time when he saw it.

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  • darkknight54

    Aug 19th 2012, 23:39

    I just registered to comment here, something I almost never do. Yes, that article was THAT good so thank you to the author for that. It doesn't matter "which film was better" etc, as stated above: who cares?? Every film of the trilogy is special in its own way and all of them are so different. I agree with the themes fear, chaos, hope ("and you know the thing about chaos.."), I literally get the chills everytime I watch certain moments of the trilogy. The way Hathaway delivers that line and her mood changes from the semi-disgusted "you don't owe these people anymore" to the semi-hopeful-come-with-me "you've given them everything" is just one of them, I'm glad it was included in the 50. Heck, TDKR was so brilliant and full of emotions and extraordinary details, you could even argue one could make the top 100 moments!! Thanx again to the author, I'll go watch it again asap (only been to the cinema 2 times), and a big, great thank you to the greatest director of the past decade and his crew for three films for which the word "epic" is a massive understatement. -It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me.

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  • darkknight54

    Aug 19th 2012, 23:40

    Oh, and by the way. This trilogy trailer gives me goosebumps even after 9348938 of watching it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T__uN5xmC0

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  • Gypsyboy316

    Aug 23rd 2012, 14:42

    have gotta admit that after watching it a 2nd time i found it much better!!!! wanna go for 3 before i get the blu ray

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  • sarahhankins

    Sep 1st 2012, 10:34

    Great 50 moments of the film - I've only seen it once so far so reading through this has guaranteed me an even more(if possible) enlightening viewing. I didn't work out that Bruce could have survived by using autopilot when I watched it so was flabbergasted when I read that that was the leading theory. However when people asked me how I thought he survived I had previously responded with that "it did't matter, because Chris Nolan has already shown batman survive countless near death experiences and that by not showing how he survived the final one Nolan was showing that the franchise had finished because its audience had finally come to accept the impossibility that batman can just survive. And so it kind of fits in with the symbolism of batman." While I still think that this is an imaginative explanation I am glad to realise that some kind of effort was made to show how bruce survived.

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  • FBPRubin

    Sep 1st 2012, 14:46

    The best film of the year. My favorite trilogy ever. My favorite director ever. The second best film villain. What can't Christopher Nolan do?

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    Sep 22nd 2012, 18:02

    BEST MOVIE OF THE SUMMER...... BUT NOT BETTER THAN "THE DARK KNIGHT"

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