Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library

New issues with Newspapers.com

@Netoholic: I have left you a message on the Library Platform my Application History. Newspaper.com was only a 3-month renewal. Strange. I see by the multiple threads above, that we are having subscription/renewal issues with Newspapers.com. Please advise. — Maile (talk) 19:37, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Ancestory.com access

Hello and good day Wikipedians. I recently gained access to Newspapers.com via Wikipedia Library. I have submitted a request for Ancestory.com but I am aware that there is a wait list. How hard is it to get Ancestory.com access. If it is easy to gain access is it just a matter of accepting to many people at the same time? In short, can I expect any action on my request or should I just write it off as a long shot? Gandalf the Groovy (talk) 23:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi there. I actually emailed @Samwalton9 (WMF) about this yesterday. I'm sure he'll reply too, but he essentially said there's no news. I had Ancestry access until recently. There was a previous discussion about this here: Wikipedia talk:The Wikipedia Library/Archive 6#Ancestry.com issue. It wasn't difficult to get access before, but it seems to be an issue at the moment. I guess "wait and see" is the answer. In the meantime, your local public library might have Ancestry access. TrottieTrue (talk) 13:24, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, TrottieTrue, even if it's a non-update update. It was such a useful subscription to have! I miss it daily, especially the time it saved in establishing basic details. Penny Richards (talk) 14:35, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Penny - yes, I agree, it was really useful. Let’s hope it comes back before too long. TrottieTrue (talk) 23:34, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Earlier today, I received an email with the log-in details for Ancestry via The Wikipedia Library. Thanks to those who have made this possible - it's a great resource, for which I am very thankful. Shame it's a new account, as it meant I had to copy all the stuff I'd saved to my Shoebox over to the new account. Hopefully next time I can just renew the Ancestry membership for this account. Penny Richards and Gandalf the Groovy, maybe you'll hear something soon. TrottieTrue (talk) 14:58, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I heard today! Very glad to have this tool again. Penny Richards (talk) 16:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Gale

Not sure who can help with this issue so am pinging Samwalton9 (WMF), but happy for any help. Searching for the name of an academic in the search bar at the top of the my library page brings up numerous articles in Gale (multiple people I get the same situation). When you attempt to access the link, the results always end up giving a brief abstract and then say "Access from your library. This is a preview. Get the full text through your school or public library." If you go to the actual Gale page and press on the Academic One File tab, you can actually retrieve the complete article. BUT, if you then add the link (for example, {{Gale|A396768686}}) to your citation, it reverts to the abstract and not the full article. This is highly frustrating because the search links only stay active for like 15 minutes, so you have to find them, format them, save them in your article, within that short time frame or you are looking at an unrefreshable locked page. Then to access the full article you have to go back to the Gale page at the library to access. This seems like quite a roundabout way to work, especially if say two articles are comparing an academics work and you cannot see them simultaneously, unless of course you kill a bunch of trees and print them out. Is there a reason this has to be so difficult? Is there an easier way to get the citation template to revert to the full article rather than the abstract? SusunW (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Hey SusunW, I can't replicate that "Access from your library" behaviour searching via the library search bar - could you elaborate on your process there? For the citation, unfortunately full text is through the library proxy and citations generally shouldn't be proxied. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:42, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Nikkimaria I'm not sure I can explain it any better. If I go to the main search bar the results are an abstract. Typing in a link that results for say Gale A396768686 I get the message as I said "Access from your library. This is a preview. Get the full text through your school or public library." I then have to back out of that, go to the library, sign in because it will have logged me out (annoying because it happens all the time, why won't it leave me signed in?), find the Gale icon, and search for the article name to get the full article. Then it doesn't stay live long enough for me to read the whole thing (unless its really short like this example), or even input the full source in a citation. Within a short period of time, it automatically goes to a page that says "Thanks for visiting! You have logged out successfully. Where can we take you? Library home page. Start a new session. Access Gale Academic OneFile." If I push on the Library home page link, I get an error message: "Welcome to Gale North America. You appear to be visiting us from Mexico." (No duh, I am in Mexico, which is in North America, hello.) If I press on start a new session, sometimes it works that I can paste the name of the file again and access it from the search result, but sometimes it doesn't. If I push on the access Gale, it takes me back to the abstract. Bottom line, I spend hours just trying to read, format and access a single source because of the roundabout way to access it and the short period of time it stays "live". SusunW (talk) 05:26, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

The logging out sounds like it might be a browser issue or extension that blocks or clears cookies - that could potentially be contributing to the access problem as well. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:24, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I wanted to see if that was the case and so I waited a while to reply to troubleshoot. It isn't my browser and I don't have any extensions loaded that I am aware of. I don't get logged out of any other site, nor en.WP, only the library. I've examined the cookies and that isn't the issue either. Just did another search and actually tried to press that "Access from your library" button, Wikipedia doesn't come up and obviously, when I try to have it search using my location, you know, in North America, it tells me to try "Gale international", which also doesn't work. SusunW (talk) 15:12, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Library access issues

maybe similar to Wikipedia_talk:The_Wikipedia_Library/Archive_6#Library_access_issues?.

I am using VPN/Proxy to access Wikimedia and have IPBE rights in enwp, metawiki. When using Search feature on TWL, the webpage pops up: "File missing: docs/suspend.htm". Then I can't login and access the library. I'm sure I only downloaded one article from Jstor collection to test the download feature. Kethyga (talk) 08:20, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

New Wikipedia Library Collections Available Now - April 2022

Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL owl says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library has free access to new paywalled reliable sources. You can these and dozens more collections at https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/:

• Wiley – journals, books, and research resources, covering life, health, social, and physical sciences
• OECD – OECD iLibrary, Data, and Multimedia​​ published by the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development
• SPIE Digital Library – journals and eBooks on optics and photonics applied research

Many other sources are freely available for experienced editors, including collections which recently became accessible to all eligible editors: Cambridge University Press, BMJ, AAAS, Érudit and more.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: log in today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 13:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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WOOOOOO! SN54129 13:37, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Oh excellent. Thank you for the happy news. Penny Richards (talk) 14:41, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Brilliant! Thank you. Coretheapple (talk) 16:55, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Excellent news, keep up the good work! Mathglot (talk) 17:16, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

DOIs as Wikipedia Library URLs

Special:LinkSearch shows that we have almost 300 external links to the subdomain doi-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org, example https://doi-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/10.1007/978-1-349-22993-2.

The latter URL provides no useful content for someone who is not a signed-in Wikipedia Library user.

Should these be converted to DOI links, where possible?

Here is an example conversion; the rendering changes from:

Albrecht Rothacher (1993). The Japanese Power Elite. London: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 50.

to:

Albrecht Rothacher (1993). The Japanese Power Elite. London: Palgrave Macmillan. p. 50. doi:10.1007/978-1-349-22993-2.

Can a bot do this? Regularly? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

And here is a different conversion, requiring the use of {{doi}} for an otherwise untemplated citation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

Two groups where you might find someone to help-out w/ bots are -- WP:BOTREQ and WP:BOTS. Crossposting there might be useful. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 15:24, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

User:Citation bot can be at least unleashed on a few of them. WP:AWB can handle the rest easily. Just search for "doi-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org" and replace with "doi.org" Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:26, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

The latter would still leave a value in the |url= parameter, rather than |doi= (in the former example conversion) and not use {{di}} in the latter. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Thank you; I am familiar with them - but we first need to demonstrate consensus for the change . Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:43, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Proxys are a blight on accessibility and web friendliness, and should be purged (I've nuked 50 or so links with Citation bot already). You've explained why above. Citation bot already does this on CS1/2 templates. The only thing that needs to be taken care with here is user pages / sandboxes and talk pages (where discussions like these refer to these links), and TWL pages, where there's a good chance someone has access to that proxy. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 10:11, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done Purged on the mainspace. Left the discussions/sandboxes alone for now. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:45, 9 May 2022 (UTC)